Non synth sounding low octave pedal?

[OilcanRacer]

i have been relying on splitting off my original sound using a low pass (mf-101)filter/eq boost then adding back into my line to get a fake clean low octave sound.

using this mainly to re-add lost bass from certain effects or just low end impact in a club. and yes i run a separate subwoofer cab to recreate the subharmonics.

in the past i have tried pitch shifters, octavers(pedal and rack mount), fancy left/right cable routing. but never found a natural sounding low bottom sound.


everything i have used was 5 years ago. i have not even touched my bass or pedals in that time. just getting back into it. so i am hoping that something new has been invented....

 

[chaosmic]

The 3Leaf Audio Octavbre is a great analog octave. Simple and flexible (but obviously not polyphonic). It can do several distinct sounds including a clean, OC-2 like -1 octave down.

 

[JohnPativens]

EBS Octabass I'd say. I could even use that to fake a low B string on a 4 string bass.

 

[yaksonator]

Foxrox octron

 

[Downunderwonder]

EBS Octabass indeed does kinda clean.

From the sounds of it you could use my patented lowpass highpass loop blend system. It's not patented but it may as well be for all the uptake on it. Eliminates low suck.

 

[kevteop]

The MXR Bass Octave Deluxe can do very boring sounds.

 

[OilcanRacer]

agggggg...no no no. maybe i wasn't clear.

those pedals do not reproduce the original bass tone one octave down. the sound they make is very synth, unnatural, digital, or too 8-bit like.

i was hoping that by now there would be a reasonable reproduction of a natural bass guitar sound, just one octave lower. not that i know how to do this, but i could guess that a super fast chip could record, slow down the pitch and boost it until the sound came out one octave below. numerous ways to do that i am sure. digital delay and chorus machines do a good reproduction of this. just gotta add the octave part in.

 

[Unemploid]

i'd say the mxr bass octave deluxe is your best bet, but recently it's been sounding too synthy for me. but the synthiness may be drown out.

one really dry sounding octave is the aguilar octavia. i once say a video of octave bass comparison on bass, but i can't seem to find it.

i have have my effects with me, but i recall adding fuzz to the mxr bod didn't sound make synthy sound.

 

[Dave W]

Can you try to explain what you're looking to do a little better? I don't understand why you're splitting your signal and then try to add a "fake" bass signal back in.

Why not use a blender? You can blend back in your original signal, nothing fake.

 

[EASonBass]

Peavey kosmos sub harmonic generator and the ilk come to mind.

 

[WaldoNova]

EHX Micropog will probably be closest to what you are looking for.

 

[Blu bro]

i have just aquired a POG2 and find that the -1 Oct makes my bass sound like an upright. It definetly isnt as synthy as the other octaves on my board but i do like the character it gives. just my .02c

 

[willbassyeah]

I think he is looking for Billy Sheehan dual setup. Rather than doing that, I will go with boss ls2, set to ab mix, loop a use a low pass filter and set it so that it won't open I recommend iron ether xerograph , the second mix is where I will put the rest of the pedals, other than this method you can take a look at Billy Sheehan ebs signature pedals

 

[OilcanRacer]

Can you try to explain what you're looking to do a little better? I don't understand why you're splitting your signal and then try to add a "fake" bass signal back in.

Why not use a blender? You can blend back in your original signal, nothing fake.

i split my sound, boost the subs and blend that to my original sound or else it would just be low bass. i only do this to simulate lower harmonics. its not a proper low octave like i want.


all octave, pitch shifters and subharmonic pedals that i have heard have that OC2/EHX micro synth keyboard sound. the sound i would like is like playing the B note on the A string at the same time playing the open B string on a 5 string bass.

 

[OilcanRacer]

i have just aquired a POG2 and find that the -1 Oct makes my bass sound like an upright. It definetly isnt as synthy as the other octaves on my board but i do like the character it gives. just my .02c

really? much respect to you then, but....
all i hear is circus organ with all EHX low pedals.


i play upright bass and even amplified mine does not sound like that. sorry i am not trying to be difficult here. just looking to not get the same sound i didn't ;like before.


ok i have owned just about every octave, pitch shift, emulator, that made low sounds to about 5 years ago. all of them had that organ, synth, non-bass guitar sound. maybe i cannot describe sound correctly?

 

[Blu bro]

fair enough. like i said its just my take on a sound. sound is like flavour very much down to the individual.

 

[chris merrill]

I think the Aguilar octamizer is capable of a very clean and dry octave down. Pretty much the opposite of the 3 leaf octabvre and boss oc2, which are both dirty and synthy.

 

[Feral Feline]

... maybe i wasn't clear.

...

You were perfectly clear.

Alas, I don't know of anything that meets your needs, though someone else might.

What's new(ish) on the market during your hiatus or thereabouts is:

EHX Pitchfork
Digitech Drop
Morpheus Bomber
Eventide Pitch Factor
Eventide H9
...?...

I don't use octavers other than the one on my M5, so I can't tell you which one is natural and synth-less, however it seems to me that by the very nature of what must be done to a bass signal to drop it even lower means it will never be quite natural enough. At least, not yet.

 

[willbassyeah]

i split my sound, boost the subs and blend that to my original sound or else it would just be low bass. i only do this to simulate lower harmonics. its not a proper low octave like i want.

then what you need is just a blender pedal A+B Mix that will do, for lower octave just do run it to a subharmonic synth or a low pass filter pedal,

Look for: wounded paw blender v2,

and from wounded paw "The instrument signal is split into 2 channels, sent to the effects channel and the clean channel with it's tone controls, and then mixed back together via separate volume controls for each channel. The clean channel or the effects channel may be switched on or off apart from the main bypass via the second stomp switch. The clean channel has a Baxandall type tone section offering cut and boost to bass and treble. With controls at noon the tone response is completely flat."

You can use the clean channel to boost the bass using the eq,

Anyway guys, he is not looking for an octaver pedals, he is looking to split his signals,

 

[moles]

agggggg...no no no. maybe i wasn't clear.

those pedals do not reproduce the original bass tone one octave down. the sound they make is very synth, unnatural, digital, or too 8-bit like.

i was hoping that by now there would be a reasonable reproduction of a natural bass guitar sound, just one octave lower. not that i know how to do this, but i could guess that a super fast chip could record, slow down the pitch and boost it until the sound came out one octave below. numerous ways to do that i am sure. digital delay and chorus machines do a good reproduction of this. just gotta add the octave part in.

Yeah, I too doubt that what you're really looking for is an octaver. They do, by design, blend in a rather synthesized, if you will, audio signal. If you're getting good results with your blended in low-pass signal - well that's *not* a sub-harmonic, it's the fundamental! I suspect you might be happier investigating some bi-amping options (if you haven't already).