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now *this* is a rig (Noel Redding content)

You my friend get it! Awesome rig, there is hope for the next generation.
And doesn't that just say it all? A man with little to now experience on the bass was chosen to back Mr. Hendrix? Speaks to his abilities, doesn't it? And it's not as if the man had never picked up an instrument in his life. He'd played guitar for a number of years before switching over to bass. Hmmm, what other bass players did that? Oh, Berry Oakley, Jack Casady, Macca, to name a few, yet they aren't consistently attacked in the same manner Noel is. Now, I'm not saying Noel was nearly as virtuosic as those players, but making the argument that just because he was not an experienced bass player first is just silly. That said though, I respect your opinion to not enjoy his bass playing. Just don't come into a thread praising him to trash him. That's just asking for trouble.



Oh, don't feel bad for all of us. Some of us know what it's like to stand in front of a wall of speakers and amps. I'm 20, and here's my default big rig:

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And what I'm currently experimenting with:

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Does it really matter- he on the recordings, TV shows, bootlegs and all over YT as the bass player for JH. Can't say that about you or me no matter what our resumes say. ANyone that played in the 60's and 70s rocks.

Can't say that about the 80, 90, 00, 10 so much smoke and mirrors out there now no one knows what to believe. Get your Protools out and everything is good!

And that is why I like listening to live recordings way more than anything done in a studio. Pristine tone, layering and weird sound effects be damned. Live stuff is (or used to be) what these folks played, right then, right there. Not taking 20 tries at getting it just so, then going back and "fixing" it anyway. Way back when, the whole group used to record live around a single mic, each taking a step closer when it was their turn to solo.


Nowdays, even supposedly "live" shows are all scripted through a digital board, complete with sound and lighting effect changes on cue...not much live left in it. Some of this poppy stuff that hardly even qualifies as music has more dancing actors than musicians.


Well....can't find the link now. There's a Simpsons episode where Bart and his friends have a boy band called Party Posse. When the record exec. decides they're not the big thing anymore, the sound engineer unplugs their magic singing machine mid song so you can hear their real voices and they all suck. That is my impression of what goes on nowdays.:)
 
You my friend get it! Awesome rig, there is hope for the next generation.

Thanks man. I tried the small combo type rigs before, and it's just not the same. I remember a few years back, my band was playing this place down in Seattle with a bunch of people on the bill. All the guitar rigs were like half stacks, mostly mesa stuff (lot of metal acts that night, some fairly big in the area). All the bass rigs were like, an SWR combo, Ampeg SS head into 4x10, that sort of stuff. Most of them sounded boomy but lacking definition and were largely drowned out, even when mixed to the FOH. And then we get on and I've got that full rig (well, only the Sunn head, but both cabs) and the sound guys pretty much let me go off stage volume, mixing it in just to reinforce it (as it should be). After the show the sound guy came down and was raving about the rig, saying it was probably the best bass sound he'd heard live in the last 20 years. With compliments like that, how could I ever switch to some small Class D rig? Pshhh. I'll pack this thing until my back gives out.


Now if I can only convince my guitar player to switch over to at least a half stack...
 
Such a cool thread! Nothing on earth sounds like those old monsters, and certainly nothing on earth feels like them to play. Those old rigs are a big part of what made the music of the day so exciting to listen to, the nuance, dynamics, and pure explosiveness.

I just play a 50 watt Orange tube head into whatever cab I feel like using now (sealed cabs, ported and tuned cabs, and even a cab with a detuned port). I would love to get a 4x12" and load it with some old Celestions. I'm loving the dynamic and soulful tone I get with that head and an EB-0 and some nice bright Rotosounds.
 
I'm watching a movie called "Rock City" and it has a bunch of live performances from the 60s and 70s. They have had three from the Jimi Hendrix Experience so far. One was "Hey Joe" and it appeared to be a very early one. Mitch didn't have an afro and Noel was playing a hollow-bodied Gibson with a single big humbucker. The second was "Wild Thing" and it was recorded a bit later. Mitch had an afro, they played through Marshall stacks, and Noel had a Fender. The third one was "Freedom" and Billy Cox played the bass.
 
Wow i joined the forum just because this was such an awesome thread.:bassist:I don't know where to start. I recently got a 1968 200s that has issues that i'm going to repair, i just got into fixing amps and i just rebuild a 68 silverface super reverb.I'm more of a guitar guy,but i guess i'm that typical bass player that played guitar before bass huh,lol. I play drums too,but i guess id least define myself as a bass player.I love playing bass,i'm just not good enough to consider myself one. All i know is i love the psychedelic blues/jazzy stuff to early proto-metal sound across the board, drums, guitar, bass, organ.They killed it back then.

Also on a side note, anyone ever listened to Noel's band Road,it's some killer stuff.

Anyone got pictures of the inside s of there 200s. Someone put a selectable impedance pot and modded a few other things. A couple resistors burnt up,and i was able to look at the schematic and find the value of the one resistor but the other one is part of the ohm switch they added so i'm having trouble figuring out the value. i can post pics if you need me too,thanks
 
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Wow i joined the forum just because this was such an awesome thread.:bassist:I don't know where to start. I recently got a 1968 200s that has issues that i'm going to repair, i just got into fixing amps and i just rebuild a 68 silverface super reverb.I'm more of a guitar guy,but i guess i'm that typical bass player that played guitar before bass huh,lol. I play drums too,but i guess id least define myself as a bass player.I love playing bass,i'm just not good enough to consider myself one. All i know is i love the psychedelic blues/jazzy stuff to early proto-metal sound across the board, drums, guitar, bass, organ.They killed it back then.

Also on a side note, anyone ever listened to Noel's band Road,it's some killer stuff.

Anyone got pictures of the inside s of there 200s. Someone put a selectable impedance pot and modded a few other things. A couple resistors burnt up,and i was able to look at the schematic and find the value of the one resistor but the other one is part of the ohm switch they added so i'm having trouble figuring out the value. i can post pics if you need me too,thanks
You'd get more replies to your schematics question if you started a new thread in the Amps forum.

Welcome to TB :bassist: