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now *this* is a rig (Noel Redding content)
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Truly, it is.
If I wanted to do the logical thing, I wouldn't still be trying to play rock & roll as a 41 year old man.
Mainly I'm doing it for my own amusement, and plugging a 400 watt tube amp into two 410 cabs and a 215 is like dropping the hammer on a Ferrari; nothing practical, but EVERYTHING visceral.
The audience might or might not notice the difference, but I'm going to have a whole lot of fun either way.
This is also from Beat Club, which is European, so Noel would be using Marshall, regardless of the year (though this is 67, so he hadn't made the switch to Sunn in the states yet).
Nope, no Acoustic here. It's a Marshall stack each for Jimi and Noel. You can see the lead from Noel's bass going into one of the Marshalls towards the end of the clip.
I have the boot of this whole show, and it's actually one of my favorites. Noel has a great performance, especially on Foxey Lady. I don't think I've ever heard a rig sound so much like it was literally about to erupt into flames and exploded as on that performance. Jimi even says at the end "it's very bad trying to play on ashes".
Here's some more photos for everyone:
Could I get that bootleg?
More win per square inch in this thread than just about any other on TB....
More deets and pics, puh-leeze!
More deets and pics, puh-leeze!
This is also from Beat Club, which is European, so Noel would be using Marshall, regardless of the year (though this is 67, so he hadn't made the switch to Sunn in the states yet).
Nope, no Acoustic here. It's a Marshall stack each for Jimi and Noel. You can see the lead from Noel's bass going into one of the Marshalls towards the end of the clip.
I have the boot of this whole show, and it's actually one of my favorites. Noel has a great performance, especially on Foxey Lady. I don't think I've ever heard a rig sound so much like it was literally about to erupt into flames and exploded as on that performance. Jimi even says at the end "it's very bad trying to play on ashes".
Here's some more photos for everyone:
Noel had a great performance? Noel Redding?
Yes, in fact he did. Despite all the people constantly talking $**t about him, Noel could actually play. Yeah, maybe he's not John Entwistle or Jack Bruce, but he exactly fit what the Experience needed. Personally, he's one of my favorite bass players, and the reason I've switched to playing Sunn gear almost exclusively. Let's not have this thread devolve into people ragging on Mr. Redding, please.
People can rag on him all they want, but at the end of the day Noel got the gig. And he couldn't have been too shabby if Hendriz kept him around for so long.
It's like people ragging on Ringo -think about the other famous drummers of the era (Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, Bonham, etc.) - would any of these guys been a better fit for the band?
I feel the same way. A busy bass player would have ruined the Exp. Mitch was great at following Jimi, and Noel had sense enough to hold it together by not getting flashy.
I always liked Jack Casady's bass playing because he didn't play the same lick over and over, but I never got into the Jefferson Airplane. He played the bass on the slow Voodoo Child, and there's nothing fancy about it...I never would have guessed it was him, but it's perfect for that song. I think a Jack Bruce approach would have been too distracting, but that's just yapping after the fact on my part.
Bill and Charlie (Stones) used to get dissed big time in the 60s because they weren't flashy, but they knew what they were doing, and decades later people (myself included) have come around to realize that.
And just for fun...
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All I have to say is there is something to be said for multi tube head and cabinet rigs. I feel sorry for you younger cats and your 2x12 combos. You think your getting the job done but you have nothing to compare it to.My small rig
How it sounds on stage. http://youtu.be/OUZ5R6eMuz8
I like big
rigs and I cannot lie
You otha brothas can't deny
When a dude walks in
with a Fender P Bass
and a wall of stacks in your face
you get sprung...
rigs and I cannot lie
You otha brothas can't deny
When a dude walks in
with a Fender P Bass
and a wall of stacks in your face
you get sprung...
Sorry folks we'll have to agree to disagree about Noel. And no I don't think the comparison to Ringo works either. Ringo is a rock solid, experienced drummer when he got the call to join The Beatles, whereas Redding, as far as I know had zero experience as a bass player before getting the gig with arguably the most influential guitarist in rock history.
Wow! Lucky for Noel that you weren't around to scoop that gig out from under him, huh?
If only Hendrix could have heard you play, I'll bet things would have been different...
Damned fate!
Wow! Lucky for Noel that you weren't around to scoop that gig out from under him, huh?
If only Hendrix could have heard you play, I'll bet things would have been different...
Damned fate!
Oh please I never said that. But the truth is that the guy never played bass before he got that gig. Heck Chas Chandler would have been a better choice and eventually Hendrix chose Billy Cox who brought much needed groove and funk to the music.
And doesn't that just say it all? A man with little to now experience on the bass was chosen to back Mr. Hendrix? Speaks to his abilities, doesn't it? And it's not as if the man had never picked up an instrument in his life. He'd played guitar for a number of years before switching over to bass. Hmmm, what other bass players did that? Oh, Berry Oakley, Jack Casady, Macca, to name a few, yet they aren't consistently attacked in the same manner Noel is. Now, I'm not saying Noel was nearly as virtuosic as those players, but making the argument that just because he was not an experienced bass player first is just silly. That said though, I respect your opinion to not enjoy his bass playing. Just don't come into a thread praising him to trash him. That's just asking for trouble.
Oh, don't feel bad for all of us. Some of us know what it's like to stand in front of a wall of speakers and amps. I'm 20, and here's my default big rig:
And what I'm currently experimenting with:
Also, makes you wonder. If Hendrix were playing today, what would he be using????
When Hendrix died I heard on the radio that he was preparing to put together a " Big Band " . That would have been awsome . Does anyone know if there is any truth to that ?
No not really. According to Mitch Mitchell he was chosen mostly because he fit the look. And I note that Noel wasn't Hendrix choice later on with Band of Gypsies which in my opinion was a far better band.
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Fortunately we agree on that.
How is it silly? Do you really think that someone who has played some guitar and never played bass is the right choice to play bass with arguably the most influential rock guitarist ever?
Sorry I thought this thread was about his rig. I didn't realize it was Noel Redding as a bass player.
If you cared to do a bit more research, which I'm sure you don't, you'll find that while there is the widespread belief that he was hired solely due to his looks, Jimi did in fact say that it was largely due to the fact that he only had to show Noel how to play a song once. In addition, Mitch is also quoted as saying that Noel was the time keeper of the band, and had a great sense of rhythm, and was ultimately the one holding the band together.
And as far as not being the first choice of bassist for an entirely different band, well, yeah, I mean Jack Bruce wasn't Clapton's first choice when he did Derek & The Dominoes or any of his solo stuff. Dale Peters wasn't Joe Walsh's first choice when he formed Barnstorm. So justifying your position that he was an inferior bass player because he wasn't asked to join a band with which Hendrix was going in a different direction and wanted a different sound just doesn't make sense. Thinking Band of Gypsys (not Gypsies) is a better band is cool, different strokes. I personally love both bands, but see them as totally different. One's a Psychedelic Blues band, and the other is a Heavy R&B band.
I don't think it matters. I think it comes down to who best suits the needs of the band. I'll use some examples: Jack Casady was (primarily, he did play some bass) a lead guitarist before being asked to join Jefferson Airplane. Phil Lesh had never played bass before being asked to join the Warlocks. Ron Wood was a guitar player before joining the Jeff Beck Group on bass, and personally I prefer him as a bass player than as a guitar player. I really don't believe it matters what instrument you have a background with if what you play works for the band and you are first and foremost a musician. Maybe that's me, and I'm sure plenty of people believe you should firmly be a guitar player or a bass player, and stick to one. I think it's important to expand and play a variety of instruments, so I don't think it's at all important that a "guitar player" was chosen as the bassist for Hendrix. How many people at the time really were dedicated bass players? So yes, silly.
You come into a thread about his Rigs and how cool they were, and then specifically quote my post about a good performance of his and make a snide remark implying that he was incapable of such a thing. Honestly, what did you expect to happen?
Now, back on topic, anyone have any more photos to share? Here's one of the Fillmore Performaces (probably Killing Floor) with Jack Casady guesting on bass and Noel on guitar. You can see the massive stacks of 2000s looming in the background.
