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now *this* is a rig (Noel Redding content)
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pfschim said:
Guild cabs. 2x15" each.
Two 100 watt Marshall SuperBass stacks were on stage for the actual gig.
ha ha - quite awesome:
"Billy Cox is using six Guild Quantum Bass cabinets with two JBL 15" speakers in each of them. Each cabinet is powered by one of those four Showman amps, a Showman Reverb, and a Twin Reverb. The total power Billy has on his speaker cabinets is ONLY 600 watts for a concert level stage rig.
How do you think today's popular four 10" bass cabinet with the same 600 watts is going to perform in comparison on that stage. Imagine, yourself with this 4x10" cabinet of "Power Pistons", trying to replace those six Quantum cabinets on stage, with that same 600 watts for power.
Clearly you can seethat this isn't going to work out too well. A single 4x10" cabinet with ONLY 600 watts! The reality is, you will be placing a 150 watts on each of those 10" speakers, while Billy is only placing 50 watts on each of his 15" JBL's.
Billy could easily double his power delivery without risk of speaker failure.
Now, stop and think,... about how many more ADDITIONAL watts of power are you going to NEED, to jack up above the 600 watts you already have on this 4x10" cabinet, to equal the performance Billy previously had going on that stage.
But,... you say, that's not fair. Because, you only have one cabinet.
OK, assume you have two 4x10" cabs now. You still have to pile on a lot more watts on those TWO 4x10" cabs, over the 600 watts Billy originally started with to equal his performance.
By the time you have reached 1200 watts on those two 4x10" cabinets, you now have 150 watts per speaker again, and Billy is still kicking your ass filling that theater with his full ranged sonic delivery system."
In those days, bass amps didn't have the watts, walls of speakers were what gave you the SPL. Tim Bogert used 6 showman heads and six Fender/Traynor cabs as well.
Then came SVT's with 2x8x10 and Acoustic 360's. The game began to change.
Guitar players historically always had killer amps. We poor Bass players, not so much till around 1969.
Sunns definitely gave the most muscle in the smallest (though not small) package, up till that point. The 200s w 60 watts and 2 JBL 15's would bury other 80 to 100 watt amps.
Then came SVT's with 2x8x10 and Acoustic 360's. The game began to change.
Guitar players historically always had killer amps. We poor Bass players, not so much till around 1969.
Sunns definitely gave the most muscle in the smallest (though not small) package, up till that point. The 200s w 60 watts and 2 JBL 15's would bury other 80 to 100 watt amps.
I remember lugging that Sunn cab up the steps into my living room after one night gigs. I loved when we play a room for a month. But I was in my 20's... no problem then.
All the bands we hung out with in the 60s had only one bass guitar, and they were totally fine with it. One factor was that the money was not the mega bucks that the big groups make now, so one good bass was what was affordable.
Sure. The impedance would be a little dicey, four cabs per head would be easier but it's workable.
I'm guessing that the unstacked cab on the left isn't part of the rig, or maybe there's even more bass rig not in the picture to the right.
Likely they introduced way less electric and acoustic power than a generic PA rig of today, though.
I think nowhere was claimed the rig has 400PS's in it. The link was about explaining supposed benefits of a rig where several amps drive several speaker cabs vs. rig where one high-power amp drives a single speaker cab. Something remotedly related to how 400PS works.
Note post 34. That was what was claimed, just clarifying, I rspectfully submit.
thanks for the clarification, I was wondering about that post.
Indeed. Look's like I'm blind. Link Removed
Well, at least I can comfort myself with the thought that there's another blindey in this thread too. I can't figure out how anyone can mistake those Fender amps to 400PS's, as that behemoth of an amp head has a very distinctive look.
Well, at least I can comfort myself with the thought that there's another blindey in this thread too. I can't figure out how anyone can mistake those Fender amps to 400PS's, as that behemoth of an amp head has a very distinctive look.
