Hey all. Looking into the possibility of picking up an octave that works octave up to go with my 3Leaf. Had a micro pog a while back. Liked it. That the way to go or should I look at any others?
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I got a "Mooer Tender Octaver". It's supposed to be a clone of one of the EHX pedals. I forget which. Possibly the POG. It's relatively cheap.
I like the octave-down. Haven't got much time yet to mess with the octave-up.
I like the octave-down. Haven't got much time yet to mess with the octave-up.
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That's the only one I am aware of that does both up and down and that was the deciding factor for me in addition to the great reviews all around - excellent tracking, etc.
The POG family (or Whammy) are probably your best bet, as they are all digital. I took a journey through trying to find a reliable way to get an analog octave up, to no avail, so I wouldn't recommend that path.
The Mooer tender octave is on my radar. Seems like a micropog, in a tiny case, for about one third the cost.
For analog octave up I used to split my signal into the audio & carrier ins of my Moogerfooger ring mod until I got an Octron.
I still intend getting a digital pedal tho at some point, I was thinking micro pig too until I read this thread.
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My two pence worth on the tender octaver: it sounds very digital on its own but has a great effect on a fuzz or distortion pedal. I run it through my boss odb-3 and to my ears it sounds awesome. I've yet to find a use for the octave down but the octave up adds a really nice layer to a fuzz sound. It sounds nice run through a delay as well.
The only thing I don't like about it is there is a tiny bit of lag between the note being played and the sound being heard. Through a distortion pedal or something that masks the individual notes anyway this doesn't matter but, by itself, it can be annoying.
Just in terms of price I think it's a no brainer compared to the POG and other higher end pedals but it does have it's limitations
My two pence worth on the tender octaver: it sounds very digital on its own but has a great effect on a fuzz or distortion pedal. I run it through my boss odb-3 and to my ears it sounds awesome. I've yet to find a use for the octave down but the octave up adds a really nice layer to a fuzz sound. It sounds nice run through a delay as well.
The only thing I don't like about it is there is a tiny bit of lag between the note being played and the sound being heard. Through a distortion pedal or something that masks the individual notes anyway this doesn't matter but, by itself, it can be annoying.
Just in terms of price I think it's a no brainer compared to the POG and other higher end pedals but it does have it's limitations
I went with the NanoPog, which is the same as the MicroPog but about half the size. I couldn't take the poor tracking of analog octaves any longer, and the POG family tracks perfectly.
I haven't tried the Tender Octave though, but this guy compares them pretty well...on guitar. Bass might be a different story.
I haven't tried the Tender Octave though, but this guy compares them pretty well...on guitar. Bass might be a different story.
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I bought a MicroPOG off a TB'er a few weeks ago. My first octave up effects pedal.
I can't recommend these things enough, they're awesome!
I bought a MicroPOG off a TB'er a few weeks ago. My first octave up effects pedal.
I can't recommend these things enough, they're awesome!
The Mooer Tender is indeed a Micro/Nano POG clone. In fact, most of Mooer's pedals are just shrunken clones of other pedals; there's a chart of them around here somewhere. And a Micro POG is on my shopping list.
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I wanted to believe this when I bought my NanoPOG. It is definitely not the same circuit. The sound is a little different, which is not a big deal, but there is a very audible amount of latency between the dry sound and the affected sound. At first I thought I was crazy, so I borrowed a buddy's MicroPOG to do a direct A/B and the latency was very apparent to everyone in the room. Like the tonal differences, it's not an absolute deal killer, but the notion that it is a Micro in a smaller box simply doesn't hold up. I really wanted it to be a Micro in a smaller box, but alas. I've read a lot of reports of this recently. It has remained on my board because I don't have room for the Micro, but if I did the Nano would be gone in a heartbeat in favor of its slightly bigger brother.
Great advice people. Was just at my local shop. Didn't have the mooer but have one on order. Had a used micro pog I almost bought.
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Interesting, I didn't notice any differences. Are you running a split signal with dry and wet taking different paths? I'm not doing that (yet) so maybe that's why I don't hear it. I had planned to do that though at some point.
Not splitting. I can run bass > NanoPOG > amp and get the latency issue. As long as both dry and octave knobs (either) are in use you can hear the latency with the octave signal coming after the dry. At first I thought it was just mine, but after reading a lot of similar reports I've assumed it was just mine.
not to hijack the thread here, but has anyone noticed a volume drop when using the pog2? tried out my friend's and was really digging the sounds i got from it, but even with the dry signal all the way up there was enough of a volume drop between effect and bypass to make it not usable for my purposes.
I went for a Pitch Fork because it's smaller and less electronically zingy than the Micro Pog. You lose a little functionality with the blend knob and single output vs the separate knobs and wet/dry outputs of the Micro Pog, but for occasionally imitating an 8 string bass, it's fine by me.
+1 Digitech Bass Whammy. It truly is the best, as far as sound and settings. It is a bit big and I dont like the power requirements, but its sounds amazing (huge difference between that and other digitech pedals; the xp-100 was so bad I gave it away). I also have an EHX HOG, and would take the whammy over that. Ive also got a Boss PS-3 and a ZVex Johnny Octave. Both are smaller with easy power requirements, which is why I got them. The two octave up setting on the ZVex isn't great, but if you are just gonna throw some dirt and an octave on it, you wouldn't notice the signal breakup. But the ZVex is pricey, even used. Personally, I would make space for the digitech. Used, its likely the cheapest of the four I got, and it just plain sounds the best. That's my takeaway from what I've got or used.
