Double Bass odd-meter discography

[adammazza]

Watchhtower - Control and Resistence

any Frank Zappa

 

[Bruce Lindfield]

This probably won't help - but Tom Arthurs' band "Centripede" do some very weird stuff - they have released a few CDs.

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I saw them locally and I was in the audience with a friend who is a bass player and there was one tune we couldn't work out - so at the end I went and asked Tom about it - he explained how it was in 21/4 with a repeating bass riff (ostinato) - but the tune was written in 3 "plateaus" of tempo - it started at a slow funky tempo - got faster in the middle and was totally manic by the end!!

 

[Eli_Upright12]

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From a jazz satndpoint i'd say Take five and A child is born.

The whole Time Out disk for that matter.
Take Five 5/4
Blue Rondo Alla Turk 9/8
Pick up Sticks 6/4 aka double waltz

Waltz for Debbie-Bill Evans not quite odd meter it goes back and forth between 3/4 and 4/4, but its polyrhythmic through out, try counting it if you dont believe me.

 

[bassist324]

Spastic Ink - Ink Complete or Ink Compatible
Martyr - Feeding the Abscess
Spiral Architect - A Sceptic's Universe
Rush - A Farewell to Kings

I think that The Flecktones had some odd-meter and poly-metered songs throughout their discography.

There's plenty more, but I think I'll limit myself here...

 

[Marcus Johnson]

Mahavishnu Orchestra.

There was a Milcho Leviev tune on the aforementioned Don Ellis Album (Tears Of Joy) entitled "Bulgarian Bulge".... completely warped.

Conlon Nancarrow's compositions for player piano will warp your brain. I'm not sure if there even is a time signature.

Finally... there's a guy named Scott Record... I bet some of you older guys have worked with him, as I have. He's a voice mimic, and as part of his act, he does "New York, New York" as Sinatra.... only with a major skip in the vinyl. I've played that chart with him many times, and I've seen a lot of players just scratching their heads when they first play it. Towards the end, it changes meters every bar, and lines are colliding into each other in total chaos. It's actually a really well written chart, but you have to be very comfortable going from one time sig to the next in order to play it right.

 

[Entre Nous 2007]

its down to reply#19 before someone mentions king crimson? any album will be filled with odd meters, but hte best is "Discipline".

In fact if you can figure out the times in "Indiscipline" you get the Gold Fripp award for odd time masterey...

Discipline is something like Fripp playing in 15/8 with Bruford drumming in 17/8

Indiscipline hurt my head trying to count it out.

 

[Marcus Johnson]

It's amazing how hard Crimson can groove in those odd time sigs. I remember a drummer friend of mine commenting after seeing the Fripp/Belew/Levin/Bruford version live, right after the first album came out. He said it was "like science fiction, something out of the future". Great band.

 

[deaf pea]

...There was a Milcho Leviev tune on the aforementioned Don Ellis Album (Tears Of Joy) entitled "Bulgarian Bulge".... completely warped...

Not to lessen Milcho's talents or contributions to the Don Ellis Orchestra, but that tune (which is in 33/16 BTW) isn't "a Milcho Leviev tune" OR a Don Ellis tune (as credited at allmusic.com) . . . it's Don's ARRANGEMENT of a Bulgarian folk tune (that was originally in 33/16, too!)
X Dennis Parker, known around here as "deaf pea" (also bassist on "Don Ellis at Fillmore", "Tears of Joy" and the soundtrack from "the French Connection", as well as on MANY "important" pop and R 'n B records)

 

[Marcus Johnson]

Really?! I didn't know that... all I remember is a very gnarly clarinet melody.

 

[Dave Martin]

X Dennis Parker, known around here as "deaf pea" (also bassist on "Don Ellis at Fillmore", "Tears of Joy" and the soundtrack from "the French Connection", as well as on MANY "important" pop and R 'n B records)

To my way of thinking, Tears of Joy is a heck of an important record! That and Don Ellis at Fillmore are two of the records that changed the way I think of music.

 

[deaf pea]

...X Dennis Parker, known around here as "deaf pea" (also bassist on "Don Ellis at Fillmore", "Tears of Joy" and the soundtrack from "the French Connection", as well as on MANY "important" pop and R 'n B records)

To my way of thinking, Tears of Joy is a heck of an important record! That and Don Ellis at Fillmore are two of the records that changed the way I think of music.

Thanks, Dave . . . but what I was trying to say (by putting the word "important" like that, in quotes) was that I don't think that ANY of the records (CDs) that I played on are any more (OR less) "important" than anybody else's work . . . every music has value . . .

...Waltz for Debbie-Bill Evans not quite odd meter it goes back and forth between 3/4 and 4/4, but its polyrhythmic through out, try counting it if you dont believe me.

Your comment about Bill Evans reminded me of a tune by one of my favorite bassists, Scott LaFaro . . . the tune is "Jade Visions" from "Sunday at the Village Vanguard" . . . I hear it as a "mutated blues" in 10/8 . . . or was it in 9/8 (4,3,2)?

YEAH, 9/8 . . .

 

[Altitude]

its down to reply#19 before someone mentions king crimson? any album will be filled with odd meters, but the best is "Discipline".

I never bothered to figure this out with my own ears. But, I have been told that on that tune, Fripp and Belew are actually playing in two different time signatures, playing patterns that happen to coincide once every so often. Kind of like if you have a pocket full of dimes and I have a pocket full of quarters, and we each lay one on the table every ten seconds, every twenty seconds there will be an even-numbered about of money on the table.

Unrelated - although it's not known as an odd-time recording, a lot of the stuff on Gary Willis' "Bent" is in 6.

 

[derrenleepoole]

Nearly everything by Nik Bartsch's Ronin.

 

[Jay Terrien]

Free music. Jesus Fist loves you. Get your ink and feather out and start transcribing the meter in these Etudes (by Demond Wilson):

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[milomo]

Several Max Roach records from the sixties - Drums Unlimited, It's Time, Percussion Bitter Sweet, and that Booker Little record on Candid called Out Front.

 

[deaf pea]

another tune that I remember liking back in the 60's - Eric Dolphy's "Out to Lunch" LP had a tune in 11/4 (IIRC) . . .

 

[pdbass]