Micro VR looks cooler, but the PF350 is same price and has more wattage and still looks pretty cool on top of the 210av. I think either reason is valid 
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Official Ampeg Micro-VR Club
- Thread starter moishelichtfuss
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I'll happily apply for a number! Might as well; I certainly love this bad boy. It's been my main gigging amp for a while, and I love rocking what is possibly the lightest full stack in history! It's definitely not the same in terms of low thump as my old flip-top, but it can handle the necessities of a reggae band pretty well!
And, in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PFFHeWLM1Q&feature=relmfu
And, in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PFFHeWLM1Q&feature=relmfu
Well just to give you some food for thought, since you've seen what the Micro VR looks like on 210av's, here's the PF350 on 210av's:
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JimmyM said:
I'm now throwing a Catalinbread SFT in front of my PF350 2x210av stack, and boy does it sound yummy!
Benavente SCD 4 (w/Nordy Big Singles) > Polytune Mini > SFT > EBS MultiComp >Mini Stack 'O Doom!
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Question for you Jimmy: given that the PF350 can technically overpower a single 210AV, how do you determine how high you can safely crank the head? It sounds like a great combination, but I wouldn't want to damage the cab!
Micro VR looks cooler, but the PF350 is same price and has more wattage and still looks pretty cool on top of the 210av. I think either reason is valid
McGryff said:
Not to butt in, but the safest way to go is 2 of the 210av's with a PF350. Each cab gets 175 watts!
No doubt, that would ultimately be the plan! But I don't think I can drop $900 on gear all at once, so I may start off with the head & a single cab, and then grab a 2nd cab when the wallet's cooled off a bit.
I use my ears
If it farts, I back off. But honestly, it's never an issue because I never turn up anywhere near possible damage happening.
well technically, even the Micro-VR can overpower a single cab; if running it near or at full tilt, the clipping from the gain would cause more than the rated 200w to be coming out. That said, I've run the amp (VR) with a single cab at full volume, and gain somewhere b/w 1 and 3 o'clock. No issues in terms of sound. Is that something I intend to do often? Absolutely not. Ideally I won't have to, and it was a pretty rare occasion in this instance.
But like Jimmy said, it's possible to run the 350 with a 210av. ears are definitely your best guide. If you want to get a 350, would you not want to invest in a different cab, perhaps? I'm sure Ampeg (or anyone else) makes a slightly higher rated cab that could handle it without problems?
But like Jimmy said, it's possible to run the 350 with a 210av. ears are definitely your best guide. If you want to get a 350, would you not want to invest in a different cab, perhaps? I'm sure Ampeg (or anyone else) makes a slightly higher rated cab that could handle it without problems?
I'm not sure, I'm still testing various amps and shopping around. I like the new GK MB combos too, but I really fell for the sound of the Micro VR stack, but the 350 has a little more power. I hadn't heard an amp/cab (that I can actually afford) sound that good since I had my B100R. Then again I played a lot of gigs with that combo, and it was only 100W. I went into a DI if it was a large venue & one was available, but otherwise I never really had many problems, and the tone was just great. I can't quite decide which way I'm gonna go, but that Micro VR tone really got me!
I never gigged the B100R but I've played them a couple times and I think volume levels vs the Micro VR/210av stack are quite comparable, and if you could play out on a B100R, you could play out on a Micro VR half stack. It's got a look and a great sound, no doubt about it.
And it's a helluva lot lighter than the B100R! The one that I have played at a few times has had a backline and FOH support. Last couple times I didn't even bring an amp, just my upright & the VT Bass or Fishman Proplat.
Rochester doesn't have very many huge venues, and I don't really play in metal bands, so high volume levels aren't usually necessary. I just need to be able to be heard through the usual band instruments at gigs - guitar, keys, drums, maybe a horn or two. If it's a huge concert hall or an outdoor gig, there better be a PA, because I'm not dropping a ton of money on a fridge & 1000W amp.
Rochester doesn't have very many huge venues, and I don't really play in metal bands, so high volume levels aren't usually necessary. I just need to be able to be heard through the usual band instruments at gigs - guitar, keys, drums, maybe a horn or two. If it's a huge concert hall or an outdoor gig, there better be a PA, because I'm not dropping a ton of money on a fridge & 1000W amp.
sounds like the VR half-stack (or of course the full) would be good for you. I do a bunch of gigs where I don't have PA support against guitar, drums, and heavy keys, and the half-stack VR competes admirably, and with no issues. My left hand technique is fairly strong, but even still, I usually have a *lot* of headroom left at those gigs. No questions with the full stack. In fact, even with the half stack I usually have to monitor my volume closely for fear of overpowering the band!
Just picked up a Micro AV and 210 SVT cab for $280. It's a nice match for my '76 P-bass and seems to fit in well with the rest of the gang!
Beauty. I got mine a couple of weeks ago and love it so much I want to cry. Tone, looks, one-handed load-in, and did I say tone already? The AV cab even makes my GK mb200 sound old school. So so tight. Doesn't have near the low end thump of the Avatar b210 neo I also just received, but it's almost half the size/weight. 
VR Head, 210AV cab and now this...Seismic 115...
Wanted something to really fill out the bottom end when I picked up the 5-string. What a difference!!!!!!
Local Music-Go-Round...used...perfect condition...only 48 pounds...$80.
Gigged last weekend in a medium-sized club...boss said "turn it down". What a powerful combination. Used to have a Hartke 500W full stack. This is waaaaaay easier to carry around.
Mega happy...
Wanted something to really fill out the bottom end when I picked up the 5-string. What a difference!!!!!!
Local Music-Go-Round...used...perfect condition...only 48 pounds...$80.
Gigged last weekend in a medium-sized club...boss said "turn it down". What a powerful combination. Used to have a Hartke 500W full stack. This is waaaaaay easier to carry around.
Mega happy...
