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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

#3,201
John D Harris said:
I think some of the newer cabs using some of the newer ~Uber~ drivers don't really give much in the way of sonic clues that they are being driven past their recommended operating parameters until the damage actually happens.
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The 10CR drivers change hugely in tone as you push them towards their limits - they go from warm and mellow, then progressively growlier and all the way to heavy overdrive. The 12XN drivers stay clean and uncompressed right up until they go non-linear and then they obviously distort.

You have to push quite a long way past the point of obvious distortion to cause damage to either driver. I think this is very important for any speaker designed for bass guitar use - I hate the thought of any customers having to 'baby' their rig, I want them to play music through it with a complete lack of emotional restraint. This is the first instance of a Barefaced driver being damaged when using an amp with less than 1000W power output and no extreme FX going on.
 
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#3,202
alexclaber said:
The 10CR drivers change hugely in tone as you push them towards their limits - they go from warm and mellow, then progressively growlier and all the way to heavy overdrive. The 12XN drivers stay clean and uncompressed right up until they go non-linear and then they obviously distort.

You have to push quite a long way past the point of obvious distortion to cause damage to either driver. I think this is very important for any speaker designed for bass guitar use - I hate the thought of any customers having to 'baby' their rig, I want them to play music through it with a complete lack of emotional restraint. This is the first instance of a Barefaced driver being damaged when using an amp with less than 1000W power output and no extreme FX going on.
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Good to know. I've been curious how hard I can push them, but not wanted to kill them with my 800w amp.
Challenge accepted :)
 
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alexclaber said:
The 10CR drivers change hugely in tone as you push them towards their limits - they go from warm and mellow, then progressively growlier and all the way to heavy overdrive. The 12XN drivers stay clean and uncompressed right up until they go non-linear and then they obviously distort.

You have to push quite a long way past the point of obvious distortion to cause damage to either driver. I think this is very important for any speaker designed for bass guitar use - I hate the thought of any customers having to 'baby' their rig, I want them to play music through it with a complete lack of emotional restraint. This is the first instance of a Barefaced driver being damaged when using an amp with less than 1000W power output and no extreme FX going on.
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Yep, good to know.
I think my eardrums are damaged to the point where as volume increases I start hearing distortion before it is actually there - if that makes any sense.
Earplugs help!
 
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Here's my new SuperTwin with a 400+ and FrankenGeddy. It sounded pretty wonky with the settings I'd used for years but upon zeroing out and starting over I've attained nirvana. It needs less EQ to sound good and there's way more overhead for the 400+ to stretch out than I've ever encountered. Thanks Alex!
 
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#3,208
Hey guys, so I think I may be ready to jump in on the Barefaced fun. I'm between the Big Baby 2 and the Big Twin 2. Right now I use a pair of Avatar 210's (vertical) on stage. I only really need the volume of one of them, but having it closer to my ear is helpful. From what I'm reading, it looks like the BB would cover all of the volume I would need. Curious if anyone else moved to the Big Baby from a vertical 410 and how it's working out? I play funk and a little rock (almost all clean guitars except for the leads).
 
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#3,209
dgrizzly said:
Hey guys, so I think I may be ready to jump in on the Barefaced fun. I'm between the Big Baby 2 and the Big Twin 2. Right now I use a pair of Avatar 210's (vertical) on stage. I only really need the volume of one of them, but having it closer to my ear is helpful. From what I'm reading, it looks like the BB would cover all of the volume I would need. Curious if anyone else moved to the Big Baby from a vertical 410 and how it's working out? I play funk and a little rock (almost all clean guitars except for the leads).
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It sounds like the BB2 will more than cover your volume needs
And you don't need it near ear level to hear yourself
My guitarist has commented several times that he can hear every note I play
 
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#3,210
strappa said:
It sounds like the BB2 will more than cover your volume needs
And you don't need it near ear level to hear yourself
My guitarist has commented several times that he can hear every note I play
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Hrm. I make so many mistakes maybe I really shouldn't play through a Barefaced. Can anyone recommend an old, undefined speaker brand that sort of sounds like there might be a good bass player playing but really just covers up the mess? :p
 
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dgrizzly said:
Hey guys, so I think I may be ready to jump in on the Barefaced fun. I'm between the Big Baby 2 and the Big Twin 2. Right now I use a pair of Avatar 210's (vertical) on stage. I only really need the volume of one of them, but having it closer to my ear is helpful. From what I'm reading, it looks like the BB would cover all of the volume I would need. Curious if anyone else moved to the Big Baby from a vertical 410 and how it's working out? I play funk and a little rock (almost all clean guitars except for the leads).
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I'd think A BB2 should do it for you. Do you prefer a single cab solution or a modular set up? A pair of BB2's is pretty awesome and gets the 2nd cab up towards ear level. I have a pair myself and do prefer running both of them to get it closer to my ear but running one has great dispersion so you can hear it pretty well.

I went with the BB2's over a BT2 because I wanted to go back to a modular setup even though I prefer a single cab solution. My requirement was that whatever cabs I went with...one of them would be able to cover 99% of what I do (in a loud power trio without PA support), and I'm happy so say that a BB2 can do that within reason.

The BT2 would more than cover anything you could throw at it.
 
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I had to send it to a FedEx location, can't wait for it this morning for the signature! THIS is torture, folks! But I get to play it over the long weekend!

7:00 am Departed FedEx location OAKLAND, CA
5:43 am Arrived at FedEx location OAKLAND, CA
4:25 am Delivery option requested
Hold at FedEx location request received - Check back later for shipment status
3:53 am Departed FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
1:00 am International shipment release - Import MEMPHIS, TN

9/01/2016 - Thursday
11:48 pm Arrived at FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
10:04 pm In transit STANSTED GB
9:15 pm In transit STANSTED GB
7:10 pm Left FedEx origin facility BECKTON GB
6:25 pm In transit BECKTON GB
2:22 pm Picked up MAIDSTONE GB
7:06 am Shipment information sent to FedEx


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Hi dgrizzly, I think it's a matter of sheer volume. The BB2 is a loud box, but some folks need two ( cannot cope with the idea of that much loudness...). Hearing the cab is a non issue. Just keep it on the floor and you hear everything. An anedoctal example: my previous band leader, a guitarist/singer who was not used to have an actual, factive bass player below him, just kept saying I was too loud while all other guys in the band and audience kept telling him the contrary. The fact was that the BB2 is easily audible, and he was not used to this. What did I do? Left the band, but I wanted to reassure you that you will not have any problem hearing your tone, anywhere.
 
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