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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

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Plutonium244 said:
I am having trouble envisioning a gig that would need 3 or truly benefit from 3 Barefaced cabs. Wanting three, enjoying three, okay... totally get that. Needing, I just don't see it from personal experience with the BF cabs. Of course I don't play 130 dB thrash music, so YMMV. Just my BB2 covers 90% of all gigs I do, and really I think the SM alone would cover at least 80% of what I do; the SM + BB2 is my overkill rig, though I confess to enjoying it even when it's not needed. Of course you did not say you "need" 3... so I chalk you up in the "want/enjoy" column, which I fully empathize with. :)

To run three, of course you'll want to pay attention to the ohm load. 2 Barefaced cabs running at 4 ohms is a lotta juice when paired with a good amp.
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What I think MAY be the unique plus of the SM+BB2 combo: the "thicker" mid of the SM combined with the big deep of the BB2 blends into one excellent voice! Haven't done the BT (almost did) so can't compare but decided not to mess with a winner.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
I am having trouble envisioning a gig that would need 3 or truly benefit from 3 Barefaced cabs. Wanting three, enjoying three, okay... totally get that. Needing, I just don't see it from personal experience with the BF cabs. Of course I don't play 130 dB thrash music, so YMMV. Just my BB2 covers 90% of all gigs I do, and really I think the SM alone would cover at least 80% of what I do; the SM + BB2 is my overkill rig, though I confess to enjoying it even when it's not needed. Of course you did not say you "need" 3... so I chalk you up in the "want/enjoy" column, which I fully empathize with. :)

To run three, of course you'll want to pay attention to the ohm load. 2 Barefaced cabs running at 4 ohms is a lotta juice when paired with a good amp.
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I was envisioning 1, 2 or 3 One10's rather than any other cabs as Anton already has 2 and was pondering an SM. I thought the synergy might work a little better with 3 10's.

But yes, my need for the 3rd cab that I used to run, when I owned Bergs, has gone since I bought 2 BF SC's cabs, and my need for a 2.67ohm amp has gone away as well.
 
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chris_b said:
I was envisioning 1, 2 or 3 One10's rather than any other cabs as Anton already has 2 and was pondering an SM. I thought the synergy might work a little better with 3 10's.

But yes, my need for the 3rd cab that I used to run, when I owned Bergs, has gone since I bought 2 BF SC's cabs, and my need for a 2.67ohm amp has gone away as well.
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Ah, I follow you now. Makes sense. I can't say I have any good reason other than 35 years of habit, but it would feel totally weird and wrong to have 3 10's... either 1, 2, or 4 lol. Odd resistance ratings always make me nervous though it's a non-issue if you don't accidentally do something foolish... but I might. When I was "growing up" with bass, we didn't even have a 1x10 cab, just 2x10 and 4x10. But I love my Barefaced One10. I have yet to run the SM and One10 together but there are a couple of TBers who swear this is a good combo too. I will have to make a point to give it a try.

And yes, I have heard from more than a few other former or current Berg owners besides your self that switched that they don't need as many cabs to hit their sweet spot for sound, echoing your remarks.

There are so many ways you could set up a Barefaced rig that would all be awesome. There is no reason I should ever need to buy another cab, unless my house burns down with them in it.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
Didja get it yet?
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FedEx dropped it off this morning, and I just got home from work and plugged it in...wow! I cannot believe that much volume can come out of something so small. I was concerned that my MB200 might not be enough to drive it, but I was totally wrong. The hype is definitely real, I must say. I unfortunately don't have any gigs lined up, but I can't imagine needing more than this with the type of gigging I usually do.

And to think I used to play a full Mesa stack with a 400+ tube head back in the day...times sure have changed.

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friskinator said:
FedEx dropped it off this morning, and I just got home from work and plugged it in...wow! I cannot believe that much volume can come out of something so small. I was concerned that my MB200 might not be enough to drive it, but I was totally wrong. The hype is definitely real, I must say. I unfortunately don't have any gigs lined up, but I can't imagine needing more than this with the type of gigging I usually do.

And to think I used to play a full Mesa stack with a 400+ tube head back in the day...times sure have changed.

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Glad you like it.

A One10 and an MB200 do work great together. When they are not going with me to gigs, they are set up in my living room. Hardly takes up any space at all. I've said this often enough that people are probably tired of hearing me say it, but I love taking the One10 and MB200 to gigs in a padded LP cajon bag that has a pouch that will also hold all cables. A bass rig that is a one-hand carry.

The cab should also break in over time so if you like the sound now, you'll love in in about 8-10 playing hours.
 
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The Deep End said:
What I think MAY be the unique plus of the SM+BB2 combo: the "thicker" mid of the SM combined with the big deep of the BB2 blends into one excellent voice! Haven't done the BT (almost did) so can't compare but decided not to mess with a winner.
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Played an outdoor outdoor gig on Sat with the BB2 and SM stack through the Mesa Subway 800 and Lakland 4-94. Silenced the horn on the SM and cracked open the BB2 slightly. Tone heaven (at least my tone heaven). Lots of compliments from the band and audience.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
Glad you like it.

A One10 and an MB200 do work great together. When they are not going with me to gigs, they are set up in my living room. Hardly takes up any space at all. I've said this often enough that people are probably tired of hearing me say it, but I love taking the One10 and MB200 to gigs in a padded LP cajon bag that has a pouch that will also hold all cables. A bass rig that is a one-hand carry.

The cab should also break in over time so if you like the sound now, you'll love in in about 8-10 playing hours.
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Good to hear. I'm definitely looking forward to gigging it ASAP. When I got home and saw the size of the shipping box, my first thought was "wow, this is way smaller than I expected!" And I'm planning on picking up one of those cajon bags.

One more question: do you recommend sitting it on its side with the feet on the floor, or is sitting vertically just as good in terms of tone? Mine has the side-mounted feet.
 
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friskinator said:
Good to hear. I'm definitely looking forward to gigging it ASAP. When I got home and saw the size of the shipping box, my first thought was "wow, this is way smaller than I expected!" And I'm planning on picking up one of those cajon bags.

One more question: do you recommend sitting it on its side with the feet on the floor, or is sitting vertically just as good in terms of tone? Mine has the side-mounted feet.
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I orient mine so that the port is on the bottom firing down. My opinion is, that's the best tone. Alex says you can stuff a sock in the port if you want to orient it sideways to baffle it but I'd rather use it the way designed. I think the bass is a little tighter and less boomy/woofy with the port down compared to on its side with an open/uncovered port firing to the side. It all depends on what you want to hear, I guess.
 
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friskinator said:
FedEx dropped it off this morning, and I just got home from work and plugged it in...wow! I cannot believe that much volume can come out of something so small. I was concerned that my MB200 might not be enough to drive it, but I was totally wrong. The hype is definitely real, I must say. I unfortunately don't have any gigs lined up, but I can't imagine needing more than this with the type of gigging I usually do.

And to think I used to play a full Mesa stack with a 400+ tube head back in the day...times sure have changed.

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Uh oh!! A fellow Ga. boy has a One10... I just may have to do some begging to try this little thing out ;):)
 
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1954bassman said:
So I played a fairly loud show tonight using my Mesa d800 and (2) One10's. I ended up unplugging one of the One10's and it worked great. Who would have thought? I did have the Mesa ohm switch seat to (2) instead of (4/8).
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I did the same thing recently. I disconnected the bottom cab and left just the top one firing and all I had to do is just pushed it a bit harder with my TH500. Unbelievable cab.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
Alex says you can stuff a sock in the port if you want to orient it sideways to baffle it but I'd rather use it the way designed.
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I'm pretty certain I never said that because it's designed to be used either way around without having to stuff the port! If a Barefaced cab has feet on two different sides then it's designed to be used in either orientation.

Sign up for our newsletter if you want to know more about how to get the best out of the cabs - I'm going to do a series of articles about them, starting with the One10 this week.
 
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BarabassNL said:
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Yes, you can choose to plug the port on any of the Hybrid Resonator cabs (all the 10CR ones) though few owners do. Likewise you could even plug one or two of the port sections on any of the 12XN cabs to lower the tuning frequency (but I don't know of anyone doing that).

The One10, Two10, Super Midget, Super Compact and Big Baby 2 can be used either way around depending on your tonal, aesthetic and practical needs. The Two10 has the biggest tonal change when you rotate it, then the One10, Super Compact, Big Baby 2 and Super Midget. The default configuration is the one that keeps the badge the right way around.
 
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alexclaber said:
I'm pretty certain I never said that because it's designed to be used either way around without having to stuff the port! If a Barefaced cab has feet on two different sides then it's designed to be used in either orientation.

Sign up for our newsletter if you want to know more about how to get the best out of the cabs - I'm going to do a series of articles about them, starting with the One10 this week.
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I stand corrected, then.
 
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alexclaber said:
I'm pretty certain I never said that because it's designed to be used either way around without having to stuff the port! If a Barefaced cab has feet on two different sides then it's designed to be used in either orientation.

Sign up for our newsletter if you want to know more about how to get the best out of the cabs - I'm going to do a series of articles about them, starting with the One10 this week.
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And now, you stand corrected, Alex. The following is from October 23rd, a little over 2 weeks ago. Yes, you can use it sideways without a sock in it (I did not say it could not be used sideways without a sock), but you did in fact say that you "can" stuff a sock in it. Nevertheless, it does bear repeating, as you did, that sideways is perfectly fine as-is; no sock required. And I look forward to your articles about getting the best out of Barefaced cabs, that should be interesting.

Here ya go:

Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club


"The Two10 (and indeed all the 10CR designs) are quite tweakable on the low frequency tightness front - with the port firing into free air they're biggest and least tight in the lows, with the port firing onto a boundary (usually the floor), they're a bit leaner and tighter. Then there's the option of entirely plugging the port (a tightly rolled up sock or T-shirt or closed cell foam plug) which tighten them up even more.

And there's also the option of plugging the port with something porous, so open cell foam or a loose plug of more open weave fabric (part of a retired woollen jumper?) so make the port aperiodic, so it becomes a leaky sealed box. And if the port is aperiodic you have the option of using the free air or boundary positioning of the port as well. Depending on how the port is damped this could actually sound tighter than a completely plugged port.

Lots of choices!"
 
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Plutonium244 said:
I orient mine so that the port is on the bottom firing down. My opinion is, that's the best tone. Alex says you can stuff a sock in the port if you want to orient it sideways to baffle it but I'd rather use it the way designed. I think the bass is a little tighter and less boomy/woofy with the port down compared to on its side with an open/uncovered port firing to the side. It all depends on what you want to hear, I guess.
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My attempt at this lead me to believe Alex has giant socks. I ended up using a shop rag, and it blew right out of the port.
 
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