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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

#481
glad to hear a similar impression from you Graham, in fact I found it to be very polite volume-wise and tight during the very first test.

I'm planning to run trough the cab a selection of bass riffs and sine waves starting from 50 Hz and up (till 250 Hz).

I generated such a file using Logic Pro, I will connect my laptop to the amp and let that compilation run for some hours at low-medium volume.

this is an unattended procedure, it worries me a bit, but I left pauses between one sine wave and the following one (each sine wave lasts 10 seconds), to let the voice coil cool down.

It should be safe...do you agree mr. Claber?
 
#484
alexclaber said:
I've just put the new G3 user manual up here:

http://barefacedbass.com/technical-information.htm

Break-in and all that other stuff is discussed in there. I was intending to email it out to everyone but time appears to be against me!
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I'm very impressed with the company as a whole, but your obsession with bass cabs makes me want to become a BBC user! Great website, very informative!
 
#485
RodneyMac said:
Great website, very informative!
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Thanks! It can be a little overwhelming for some bassists so we're hoping to make it superficially simpler but still with the depth of info when we do a site redesign later this year - and more pictures/photos/diagrams/video because we have customers all over the world, many of whom speak other languages than english.

I'm excited to see all the new high power amps at NAMM this year - really great for getting the most out of our uniquely potent cabs and makes serious downsizing whilst maintaining/improving tone easier than ever.
 
#486
alexclaber said:
The only way the voice coil will be getting hot during break-in is if you're running your amp so loud that your neighbours complain!
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today I had my BB2 roaring with some power, well, I don't know exactly the amount of watts, but two things are clear:

- my neighbours WERE complaining, even those at the end of the road :D

- the BB2 IS a loud cab. Today I realized that the efficiency of the cab is very good, and I think the tone will grow up even more...till now the cab has worked maybe 1 hour. Need more time to play it!

more reports when I have rehearsed the cab
 
#487
Alex,your website can be overwhelming for some perhaps but it really does give confidence to a buyer who wants to know everything there is to know about a product, I would rather buy from a company that is so passionate about their products that they make the effort to back up their claims with facts and technical evidence, the detail you go into is reassuring and gives the customer confidence that they are buying a well designed and built product.
I will only buy Barefaced cabs in future unless someone can convince me something else is better with facts, keep up the good work - please :)

Looking forward to my second super compact :bassist::)
 
#488
Alex, any chance we could get a graph of the frequency response of the new driver is? Im very interested in the 2x12 without tweet. I've always prefered the tone and cut of a one-way cab and your new driver seems like it fixes all the issues with everything on the shelf that is good, but not great. It looks like the USA price, shipped is around $1400, is that correct?
 
#489
A techy question for Alex Claber.

Tweaking the back rotary pad for the horn, I got the feeling that this control was maybe conceived in a different way compared to many other "tweeter" designs.

In fact, on my previous and other cabs, backing it simply subtracts highs but the woofers are always crossed over.
Maybe with Barefaced its the same but it seems to me that the crossover point may be variable or act in a dynamic manner. Switching completely off the horn I can hear a pleasant ample frequency response from the 12XN550 woofer, but engaging it brings the horn to the table but surprisingly the tone of the woofer appears to be seamlessly bond with it in the mids...
sorry if I explain badly, this is not my language...
 
#490
Chris, I've emailed you! You're correct on price.

sratas said:
A techy question for Alex Claber.

Tweaking the back rotary pad for the horn, I got the feeling that this control was maybe conceived in a different way compared to many other "tweeter" designs.

In fact, on my previous and other cabs, backing it simply subtracts highs but the woofers are always crossed over.
Maybe with Barefaced its the same but it seems to me that the crossover point may be variable or act in a dynamic manner. Switching completely off the horn I can hear a pleasant ample frequency response from the 12XN550 woofer, but engaging it brings the horn to the table but surprisingly the tone of the woofer appears to be seamlessly bond with it in the mids...
sorry if I explain badly, this is not my language...
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You've explained it far better than I could in Italian! Because of how the 12XN driver and the HF driver behave turning the HF control down shifts the effective crossover frequency upwards whilst turning it up shifts the crossover downwards. We put a lot of effort into making the two drivers complement each other through their common frequencies, not just their phase response but their inherent tone due to diaphragm properties so that they do blend as seamlessly as possible when the HF control is all the way up. But then when you turn the HF control all the way off you get to hear the character of the 12XN driver in the treble, which significantly changes the vibe of the cab.
 
#493
Rehearsal report:
2 acoustic guitars (amplified)
voice
bass (G&L JB)

this cab is surprising me.

- the tone changed (improved) from the beginning to the late part of the night, even if the quality of the midrange is still a bit rougher and cold than I desire, let's see with ageing...

- the "dynamic" or "intelligent" crossover is really a piece of art, I don't know how to set it for my tastes yet, but every setting sounds....well..."complete". Even with the HF driver completely OFF I can hear a pleasant response from the 12XN in the mids and lower highs, but even with the pad to the max the highs are not slicing. Instead, they are polite, or warm I could say, I like it

- THIS IS A LOUD CAB (efficient). Yes, the amp worked with gain and volume controls way down than ever, but the thing that hit me was the "image" of the sound, like my bass was amplified by a larger cab, a big cab, the tone has a big breath to it. The omph is really something, even at low volumes, if this makes some sense!

- for the very first time, in that room (****** room for acoustics) I had to turn DOWN the bass control on my amp, big booty coming from the BB2
 
#495
It doesn't sound like you are in a situation where you are putting any real power to the cab so, it will probably take a long time for you to break it in. I would download the 25hz signal track from the barefaced page and run it into the cab for a solid 24 hours (accumulative, you need to go to bed sometime). Then report back. I'll bet the mids smooth out more.
 
#496
kringle77 said:
It doesn't sound like you are in a situation where you are putting any real power to the cab so, it will probably take a long time for you to break it in. I would download the 25hz signal track from the barefaced page and run it into the cab for a solid 24 hours (accumulative, you need to go to bed sometime). Then report back. I'll bet the mids smooth out more.
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already started to do that, thanks.
With a sequence of sine waves of 45, 80, 120, 150, 250 Hz and even playing trough it recorded bass tracks. I composed this killer mix in Logic pro and I use my Mac to fire it up.
Maybe I will follow your advice and add a 25 Hz file.

I only have spare minutes in a day to do this, so it will take a long run in any way....

it doesn't matter, now that the cab is in my hands, I only have to play it over and over...
 
#497
The 25hz signal will be less noisy and will break in the driver much quicker. When i do it, i run the signal into mu amp without the cabhooked up, put a volt meter on the speaker cable and then turn up the amp until i get 10 vdc. This is a safe, fast and most productive way to break in speakers. With 25hz.
 

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