The Bergantino B|Amp has an adjustable HPF.Very good. I wish more amps came with an HPF like the D800+ does. BUt then... I actually don't crave for another amp anymore after buying the D800+, and that's a rare thing in me
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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Switching from a duo of Bergantino HDN210, which in itself is a lightweight, high end cabinet, and a Phil Jones Compact 4 Lite, which is a tiny, lightweight 4x5" cabinet. It's amazing how the Super Compact is about the size of the Bergantino, even lighter than the Phil Jones, which is like 1/3 of the size, and just seems to sound fantastic. And is cheaper than the Bergantino! I can't believe I've spent thousands of dollars in bass cabinets in my life when I could have just spent less than one grand on the Super Compact and been happier.
Obviously, the Super Compact doesn't defy laws of physics. I can put all the watts I want into it, but it doesn't change the amount of speaker cabinet I have, so it won't flap the chest like an entire stack of speakers will. HOWEVER, rooms can only handle so much bass, and I finally have a cabinet that can take the full wattage from a high powered amp, fill up the room as far as it can go, and not suffer in tone at all. On my Bergantino or my Phil Jones, I would reach about the ideal volume at 5 on the head, and then after that, it does get louder, but the cab gets more congested sounding and the tone would start getting boxy, with the low end not keeping up, so I've always hated when I did have to turn up live.
On the Barefaced, I can put the head at 10, and in a solo practice situation, it's hard to tell if it's actually sounding that much louder than at 5 because I suppose my ears aren't that sensitive to volume changes in the low end and without a tweeter, there's no annoying treble that irritates me and lets me know it's too loud. But maybe I can't tell that it's all that much louder because the tone doesn't change a single bit from 5 to 10, and I've never had a cab that does that, so my brain is confused. Yet, everything in the practice room from the shelves to the snare wires rattles wildly to let me know I've long exceeded the amount of bass the room can handle, so it clearly must be much louder at 10. The B string rendering is fantastic as well. I have a show Saturday, and I can't wait to hear it in action in a gig situation when I can really push my 800 watt head (400 watts into 8 ohms).
The tone is very smooth, no matter where I am in relation to the cabinet. I can hear it just as well off or on axis. Plus, the tone feels FAST. This is something that I have always missed, ever since I switched away from sealed Ampeg cabinets. Other cabs can sound great, but they don't sound fast like the Ampeg does. It's hard to describe, but sealed cab fans know what I'm talking about. Finally, though, with the Super Compact, I feel like here's a cab that sounds fast.
I agonized over Super Compact vs. other Barefaced cabinets. Given my tonal (old school sound w/ modern approach) and personal (lazy, don't like to carry stuff) preferences, I feel like I chose the cabinet that would be 100% perfect for 85% of my needs, rather than a cab that would be 85% perfect for 100% of my needs. I am glad I chose the Super Compact over the Super Midget or the Two 10, which were two of my other options. I was torn because the website said the 12XN550 is flat and the 10CR250 is colorful, and I generally like lively tone, but I have to remember that flat or neutral doesn't mean dull and lifeless. I mean, I play flatwounds after all. The only question is whether I should have gone with a Big Baby.
I figure I'll need a second cab some day, then I'll buy a Big Baby. Then if I find out that I prefer that to the Super Compact, I figure I can always just buy a second Big Baby and sell the Super Compact, it seems like it retains value really well and moves fast on TB. But for now, I'm super happy.
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Question about the drivers in the two 10. I'm sitting down to record and we're debating which side to mic. I recall that one speaker has more high-end then the other by design.
Hopefully you can save me a little bit of time. Which side has more high-end?
Thanks.
Hopefully you can save me a little bit of time. Which side has more high-end?
Thanks.
The left side driver when looking at the cab--it will be the top driver if you stand the cab on its side with the port down.
Thank's for the review. When pulling the trigger I was deciding between Phil Jones and Barefaced.. So far Barefaced hasn't disappointed me yet, and your review kind of backs the decision
Good to hear that I've skipped that one... It was a big investment, but saves money in the long run
I saw it on the BF site and posted a link about it, a few posts ahead of yours (edit - actually a few pages back, on Friday). I know it has a fire under a few people who have been on the fence. I just got my order in, recently.
Whoops, I usually keep up to date on this thread, but I missed a few pages there.
Same here. Was gonna flip the 410 and go 610, but the modular 410/210 makes more sense.
Exactly. For me the Two10 personally will be enough for rehearsals and some of the smaller gigs I play. The Four10/Two10 will be perfect to piss the sound guys off with!
Super Compact arrived this week! Paired with the Mesa Subway D800 and my go to Birdsong CBass!
There's nothing wrong with the Phil Jones, mind you. Given what's out there, it's actually a pretty superior choice. It's just the Barefaced is even more superior.Thank's for the review. When pulling the trigger I was deciding between Phil Jones and Barefaced.. So far Barefaced hasn't disappointed me yet, and your review kind of backs the decision
Good to hear that I've skipped that one... It was a big investment, but saves money in the long run
I decided I'm really happy with my Super Compact and love the size of it, I'm thinking about maybe buying a Super Midget and maybe getting that order in before March.** That way, I can use it as an even smaller single cab, as a stack with the Super Compact, or on my odd piano/organ gigs (I'm actually way better at piano than every other instrument combined, but most people don't really know that, so I get more gigs on guitar/bass). I really love the Phil Jones Compact 4 Lite still, and it honestly pains me to get rid of it because it's actually still perfect for quiet gigs and works weirdly well with piano/organ. But it can't really stack with my new Super Compact, and a Super Midget would.
** Though, really, I would buy another Barefaced even if it cost $200 more, so, really, what's the hurry.
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Guys, especially those who owned both Two10 and SM, which of them is loader/lower sounding as a single cab solution? The amp is Quilter BB800. Assumed that Two10 will be 4 Ohm and SM is actually 8 Ohm.
I haven't done a side-by-side, but my guess is the Two10. I just looked an the Two10 is rated down to 30Hz and the SM is rated for 37HZ, so....
I need to look at the measurements, but I'm guessing the cab volume is bigger on the Two10. The watts shouldn't matter that much for 4 vs. 8 Ohms (~3dB).
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Thanks! Curious cause I have One10 as a practice cab paired with GK MB200 and also SM as a gigging rig paired with BB800. But tone-wise I prefer colored tone of 10" speakers so my idea was to replace SM with Two10 OR just buy another One10 two of which stacked will hopefully give me same volume as one Two10?
