Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[monsterthompson]

Struggling to choose between a BB2 and the 210 here. I know the differences on paper but in a live setting, in a mix, I can't decide which will serve better. I tend to lean away from overly bright tone but like to hear the nuance of my playing. Without a high freq driver, how much articulation would I give away with the 210?

I've used both. You aren't giving up much of anything. The Two10 is "easier" to get a good basic tone out of. The voicing is very nice for bass. For most standard rock band settings, where you just plug a P into a head and cab, it's a better sounding choice. However, the BB2 is no slouch. If you're handy with EQ and/or have a cab sim, you can certainly get it to mimic the Two10 to some degree. If you want a bigger, deeper bass, the BB2 is the way to go. Or if you want the mids to really stand out without sounding over-EQ'd, like going direct to monitors, the BB2 is the better choice.

 

[tallboybass]

Struggling to choose between a BB2 and the 210 here. I know the differences on paper but in a live setting, in a mix, I can't decide which will serve better. I tend to lean away from overly bright tone but like to hear the nuance of my playing. Without a high freq driver, how much articulation would I give away with the 210?

You just described a SuperCompact...

 

[jazztonebass]

Great. Yet another model to consider

 

[friskinator]

If anyone in the metro Atlanta area owns a Super Compact, I'd love to check it out in person sometime. Really wanting to hear it next to my One10 for comparison.

 

[monsterthompson]

You just described a SuperCompact...

Not exactly. The SC is like a BB2 with the crossover all the way down, and a bit less deep low extension. I wouldn't call it a mid-point between the two.

 

[mcnach]

I've used both. You aren't giving up much of anything. The Two10 is "easier" to get a good basic tone out of. The voicing is very nice for bass. For most standard rock band settings, where you just plug a P into a head and cab, it's a better sounding choice. However, the BB2 is no slouch. If you're handy with EQ and/or have a cab sim, you can certainly get it to mimic the Two10 to some degree. If you want a bigger, deeper bass, the BB2 is the way to go. Or if you want the mids to really stand out without sounding over-EQ'd, like going direct to monitors, the BB2 is the better choice.

I agree with most of this.
I used to own a pair of BB2, which are great... but I now own two Two10 cabs instead and I am finally *in love* with my set up. There's plenty of everything in the Two10 and it's a more 'musical' bass cab in my opinion. With the BB2 I had to work my EQ to get the sound I wanted, with the Two10 I have to work hard to get a sound I DO NOT like. For great sound without fuss... Two10 for me.

 

[Lowendtech]

I agree with most of this.
I used to own a pair of BB2, which are great... but I now own two Two10 cabs instead and I am finally *in love* with my set up. There's plenty of everything in the Two10 and it's a more 'musical' bass cab in my opinion. With the BB2 I had to work my EQ to get the sound I wanted, with the Two10 I have to work hard to get a sound I DO NOT like. For great sound without fuss... Two10 for me.

What is your amp of choice with the Two10's?

 

[CJL]

What is your amp of choice with the Two10's?

I'm interested in the answer to that also

 

[beatlebass64]

I'm interested in the answer to that also

I thought about a Two10 instead of the Super Compact, and my plan was to get the 4ohm version.

I have the Mesa Subway D800 so that would have been 800 watts with the 4ohm version of the Two10.

If you're planning on using the Two10 by itself you may want to consider the 4ohm version to maximize the amp.

I think the GK and Markbass heads are pretty common parings with any Barefaced cab.

 

[mmbongo]

I thought about a Two10 instead of the Super Compact, and my plan was to get the 4ohm version.

I have the Mesa Subway D800 so that would have been 800 watts with the 4ohm version of the Two10.

If you're planning on using the Two10 by itself you may want to consider the 4ohm version to maximize the amp.

I think the GK and Markbass heads are pretty common parings with any Barefaced cab.

Keep in mind the Two10 only handles 400 watts. Pumping 800 watts into it will destroy it in no time, especially with a 5 string.

 

[monsterthompson]

I thought about a Two10 instead of the Super Compact, and my plan was to get the 4ohm version.

I have the Mesa Subway D800 so that would have been 800 watts with the 4ohm version of the Two10.

If you're planning on using the Two10 by itself you may want to consider the 4ohm version to maximize the amp.

I think the GK and Markbass heads are pretty common parings with any Barefaced cab.

Don't forget the option to get the Two10 with a switch to ally you to flip it between 4 & 12 Ohms.

 

[CalBuzz51]

210 Page:
RECOMMENDED AMP POWER
100-500W RMS
(safe with up to 800W if you're running fairly clean sounds)

 

[Lowendtech]

Keep in mind the Two10 only handles 400 watts. Pumping 800 watts into it will destroy it in no time, especially with a 5 string.

Website says it's 500W RMS or up to 800 if run clean. D800/+ can be dialed back to 600W if you flip the 2ohm switch and of course there that other knob to play with so it's no worries. The D800+ is a great head for that cab and I can see 2 of them being a great thing vertically.

Gah, CalBuzz51 beat me too it: edit

 

[Plutonium244]

Don't forget the option to get the Two10 with a switch to ally you to flip it between 4 & 12 Ohms.

^^^ This. I don't "need" a cab, but more than likely, if and when I get another, it'll be the switchable 4/12 ohm Two10. The switch feature is a $65 option.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Keep in mind the Two10 only handles 400 watts. Pumping 800 watts into it will destroy it in no time, especially with a 5 string.

In those examples it's throwing 800 watts between the two cabinets. Each seeing 400. It should be no issue if the user is reasonable about it.

 

[Lowendtech]

^^^ This. I don't "need" a cab, but more than likely, if and when I get another, it'll be the switchable 4/12 ohm Two10. The switch feature is a $65 option.

You can also get the conversion kit from Barefaced if you get one of them used.

 

[mmbongo]

Website says it's 500W RMS or up to 800 if run clean. D800/+ can be dialed back to 600W if you flip the 2ohm switch and of course there that other knob to play with so it's no worries. The D800+ is a great head for that cab and I can see 2 of them being a great thing vertically.

Gah, CalBuzz51 beat me too it: edit

Just be very careful with it, as the cab says 400 watts on it. I'm also going by my experience with the One10..the drivers are not meant to handle a lot of abuse or heavy B string use. A high pass filter goes a long way with these cabs, and of course having two of them would be ideal!

 

[Plutonium244]

You can also get the conversion kit from Barefaced if you get one of them used.

Good to know, I was not aware. Is the conversion kit also $65, or?

Thanks for the 411.

 

[monsterthompson]

You can also get the conversion kit from Barefaced if you get one of them used.

True.
I ordered one. Never installed it. It's not a ton of work, but it was more than I felt comfortable with. It's not terribly laborious, but it's not a 10 minute operation either.

 

[Lowendtech]

Good to know, I was not aware. Is the conversion kit also $65, or?

Thanks for the 411.

Not sure on the price.
You used to be able to buy the 12ohm crossover setup if you wanted to convert your existing 4ohm cab and vice versa.
I don't know for a fact that you can buy the new switchable setup separately.