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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

#9,901
SerratedBass said:
Well if it helps, I tune down to A and use varying levels of gain from a bit of grit to raging distortion, and my Four10 delivers the low end in spades. The voicing of the cab works great with distortion, and I always cut through live. The bands I play in are thrash/death/grind so I have to cut through some pretty heavy and loud guitar tones.

However much low end you throw at it, the cab can deliver it. I use a D800+, and even with the deep switch engaged, voicing maxed and bass maxed, the cab doesn't fart out. I don't run it like that personally as it is just too much low end, but the cab can definitely take it.
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That helps a lot. I'm sold.
 
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I have said this before, it is almost impossible to find an amp that does not sound at least "good" with the Barefaced tens. Their inbuilt character/voicing is very forgiving and seems to enhance every amp I have played with mine - not saying that they do not distinguish between amp characteristics as they are certainly still able to do that. My BB2, however, is more analytical and distinguishes more obviously between different amplifier characteristics.
 
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Out of curiosity, as it is not an issue for me, but I see that on the Barefaced website they state that maximum power for both the Big Baby 2 and the Two 10s as 800 watts each. I have just noticed that the back plate on my BB2 states 800 watts, but on my Two 10s it says 500 watts on the back plate which is contrary to the website. As I said it is not a problem as I never overdrive my cabs anyway, but I do wonder whether this implies that that the Two 10s will handle less power than the BB2?
 
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Tim1 said:
Out of curiosity, as it is not an issue for me, but I see that on the Barefaced website they state that maximum power for both the Big Baby 2 and the Two 10s as 800 watts each. I have just noticed that the back plate on my BB2 states 800 watts, but on my Two 10s it says 500 watts on the back plate which is contrary to the website. As I said it is not a problem as I never overdrive my cabs anyway, but I do wonder whether this implies that that the Two 10s will handle less power than the BB2?
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From the website:
Recommended Amp Power
100-500W RMS
(safe with up to 800W if you're running fairly clean sounds)
 
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I've always been confused about the comment on Barefaced's website about it being safe for 800 watts if running clean power. To my mind "clean power" would be more dynamic, and prone to peaks and transients more likely to be damaging to speakers. Compared to over driven power which is more compressed and rolled off.
 
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mattwear said:
I've always been confused about the comment on Barefaced's website about it being safe for 800 watts if running clean power. To my mind "clean power" would be more dynamic, and prone to peaks and transients more likely to be damaging to speakers. Compared to over driven power which is more compressed and rolled off.
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Did you read my comment?

You need to look at it backwards. If you're running clean sound any compression is the speaker running out of headroom. That's the biggest most obvious clue things have potential to go pear shaped.

If you are already running a compressed mess of distortion you get advised to use a smaller amp.
 
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Downunderwonder said:
Did you read my comment?

You need to look at it backwards. If you're running clean sound any compression is the speaker running out of headroom. That's the biggest most obvious clue things have potential to go pear shaped.

If you are already running a compressed mess of distortion you get advised to use a smaller amp.
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This is true. The advice I give to my students when they obsess with matching up gear is "use your ears". Once you have blown a speaker, normally at a young age, it becomes pretty simple and obvious to identify a potential issue and avoid it happening again. Amp compression or distortion pedal sounds a bit different to my ears.
 
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This just arrived:

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Used it at rehearsal tonight. It sounds pretty good.
 
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mattwear said:
I've always been confused about the comment on Barefaced's website about it being safe for 800 watts if running clean power. To my mind "clean power" would be more dynamic, and prone to peaks and transients more likely to be damaging to speakers. Compared to over driven power which is more compressed and rolled off.
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It's more compressed overdriven power that's more likely to damage speakers thermally - and with a well designed bass guitar speaker, thermal damage is the bigger risk. Bear in mind that a speaker rated at 400W has had to handle peaks of 1600W during power testing (6dB crest factor).
 
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Matthias said:
I'm playing a GK 700RB-II (320W@Ohms) through a BB2.
While I really love the sound, the GK seems to run out of steam at high volumes. (less punch and clarity on the low notes). I'm not sure, but I think it's the amp and not the cab. Or is it my ears?
Most class D amps (including GK Legacy 800 and 1200) provide 400@Ohms, I don't think that this will make a significant difference.
So can anyone recommend a more powerful alternative to the GK 700RB (except für the obvious 1000RB, which weighs a ton, unfortunately)?
Thanks!
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Mine does the same, I've been thinking about getting a th500, lower wattage I know but from what I've heard it sounds better to my ears
 
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rob_thebassman said:
Mine does the same, I've been thinking about getting a th500, lower wattage I know but from what I've heard it sounds better to my ears
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I occasionally feel the same way using my Mesa subway 800+ (400 watts into 8 ohms) into my BB2. The BB2 is certainly capable of handling more as when I play the Aguilar DB751 into it the sound is definitely "more huge". Not really a fair comparison considering the price difference and the subway is fine if I am honest. I realized that the simple answer would be to add another BB2, allowing the 800+ to deliver its full 800 watts into 4 ohms which should cover any possibility - especially with the doubling of speaker area. When I was obsessing on it and did the research the Bergantino Forte HP seemed to be the answer, but in reality while it delivers 600 watts into 8 ohms I am not sure that it would be significantly louder or more controlled than the subway. I decided to stick with the Mesa and have not regretted it.
 
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Tim1 said:
I occasionally feel the same way using my Mesa subway 800+ (400 watts into 8 ohms) into my BB2. The BB2 is certainly capable of handling more as when I play the Aguilar DB751 into it the sound is definitely "more huge". Not really a fair comparison considering the price difference and the subway is fine if I am honest. I realized that the simple answer would be to add another BB2, allowing the 800+ to deliver its full 800 watts into 4 ohms which should cover any possibility - especially with the doubling of speaker area. When I was obsessing on it and did the research the Bergantino Forte HP seemed to be the answer, but in reality while it delivers 600 watts into 8 ohms I am not sure that it would be significantly louder or more controlled than the subway. I decided to stick with the Mesa and have not regretted it.
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Eich t900 is 600 watts @8ohms and 900 watts @4ohms
 

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