This may be the wrong thread for this, but if anyone has a Two10S preferably with silver grill cloth that they are looking to sell please let me know. I want to join the club!
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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you just missed 2 of these that were on reverb longer than they had any business being.
Just got shipment notification on my second Two10S (ordered March 17th). Running both will be overkill for 99% of the gigs I'm doing now, but I wanted to go ahead and get a pair so I never have to think about cabs again. I've been very impressed running a single cab with my Mesa D800+.
Sound idea. I can get through the overwhelming majority of our gigs with just one of my Big Baby's, but having the second one almost guarantees that I'll never not have enough cabinet for a gig. We just did an outdoor gig last weekend and our sound guy decided he didn't need to run me through the PA because those two cabs were plenty (I have a D-800+ as well and it's what I normally use but I decided to use my backup head, a G-K 1001-RBII, just for a change of pace).
That's exactly what I use (well, mine are Two10, not switchable, the 4 ohm versions), one/two cabs depending on the gig, and a D800+. That combination never disappoints.
This makes one wonder... which would you rather have on a huge stage with the same amp? A pair of Two10s or a pair of Big Babies?
Depends on how you wanna sound. I'll do 2x bb3s all day.
I'll give you a hint…
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I'd love to compare the BB3 vs the Two10S. I love my Two10S. It has enough low end for me and enough high and just sounds great for rock. I love that retro tone I guess!
May others follow quickly
Hard to capture good reference tone. The mic used, the amp/preamp, strings, pickups. technique/player, the room and any post-processing influence sound samples a lot. I know Alex has some on his youtube channel. For the BB3s, if one likes the tone from a good set of cans/reference monitors, the BB3's will be fairly close, but can be much, much louder. I practice 90% through a set of shure srh-1540s. The BB3s sound like what put in my practice rig. Pretty transparent cabs, very little tone colorization.
Two10.
I had a pair of BB2 before, which worked fine, but once I tried the Two10 it was like meeting a close friend you haven't seen in years. I sold the BB2 and never regretted it. But that's just my personal preference. Those BB2 are very capable. It's just that the BB2 required me to use EQ quite a bit, while the Two10 just has the character I want out of the box.
I love my Big Baby's and my band is just as happy with my sound as I am.
However, I admit to casually considering a pair of Two10s. Not because I find the BBs lacking in anyway, I don't. Just curious about the difference between them.
If I could get a decent "getting kicked in the chest" sample, that would be exponentially more helpful haha
While we do have more info, demos, content, etc. than ever online, the unfortunate truth, especially with speaker cabinets is that nothing will tell you more than standing in front of one & hearing it for yourself. Granted, the cabs are pretty rare compared to other manufacturers so that may be difficult. At least we have a small community of users on this forum that are willing to vouch that these cabs definitely live up to the hype.
Take it from some guy you've never heard of who's in a band you probably wouldn't listen to, Barefaced is the real deal.
While we do have more info, demos, content, etc. than ever online, the unfortunate truth, especially with speaker cabinets is that nothing will tell you more than standing in front of one & hearing it for yourself. Granted, the cabs are pretty rare compared to other manufacturers so that may be difficult. At least we have a small community of users on this forum that are willing to vouch that these cabs definitely live up to the hype.
Take it from some guy you've never heard of who's in a band you probably wouldn't listen to, Barefaced is the real deal.
My $.02 (and Alex, feel free to expound)…
I have 2xBB3 cabs. They are punchy, super clean and pure tone yet happy to transfer the growl they receive. They fill the room in smaller clubs and venues. By "fill the room" I am talking about a full, rich sound without high volume. FOH is optional, actually not needed in many cases because of their level of full spectrum dynamics.
Every other cab I've run would require more actual volume and a bit of EQ tweaking to do the same. More 'volume' means a heavier draw and more heat, and those other cabs would reflect that via a change in tone as the night progressed.
At open air, elevated stage and larger venues the same exact rig is perfect. The difference is I use a bit less dB coming from the rig, FOH carries the rest. The drummer and frontline gents can still hear me clearly via the stage rig. That means less bass in the wedges (me+drummer) and IEMs (guitars, lead and BGV). The result is we all feel the music and have a more balanced and clear dynamic sound.
My guess is 2x10 cabs would still be super punchy and great sounding, but not sure if that big warm velvety surround-sound blanket would make it through the room.
The best rig I ever ran prior was a GK800RB pushing 2x10 (high) and 4x10 (low) bi-amped Hartke cabs - Will Lee's rig. Gigs from Madame Wong's to outside festivals. Barefaced cabs (being pushed by either a Genzler MG800 or EA iAMP Classic) is in another dimension.
And Alex is now the only trusted expert for me in this space. I thought I needed 2x Big Twin cabs, he wanted to know if I was trying to demolish a brick building or melt lead. Not really, but when the guy who makes them says "you don't need that much (presence)" I was smart enough to listen. ✌
I have 2xBB3 cabs. They are punchy, super clean and pure tone yet happy to transfer the growl they receive. They fill the room in smaller clubs and venues. By "fill the room" I am talking about a full, rich sound without high volume. FOH is optional, actually not needed in many cases because of their level of full spectrum dynamics.
Every other cab I've run would require more actual volume and a bit of EQ tweaking to do the same. More 'volume' means a heavier draw and more heat, and those other cabs would reflect that via a change in tone as the night progressed.
At open air, elevated stage and larger venues the same exact rig is perfect. The difference is I use a bit less dB coming from the rig, FOH carries the rest. The drummer and frontline gents can still hear me clearly via the stage rig. That means less bass in the wedges (me+drummer) and IEMs (guitars, lead and BGV). The result is we all feel the music and have a more balanced and clear dynamic sound.
My guess is 2x10 cabs would still be super punchy and great sounding, but not sure if that big warm velvety surround-sound blanket would make it through the room.
The best rig I ever ran prior was a GK800RB pushing 2x10 (high) and 4x10 (low) bi-amped Hartke cabs - Will Lee's rig. Gigs from Madame Wong's to outside festivals. Barefaced cabs (being pushed by either a Genzler MG800 or EA iAMP Classic) is in another dimension.
And Alex is now the only trusted expert for me in this space. I thought I needed 2x Big Twin cabs, he wanted to know if I was trying to demolish a brick building or melt lead. Not really, but when the guy who makes them says "you don't need that much (presence)" I was smart enough to listen. ✌
I also prefer the bb3s when playing live due to not needing a cab to color my tone. I can run di (through the amp, post eq) and have a reasonable expectation that the audience is hearing what I'm hearing. Sure, foh may add eq or compression, but I don't need a cab or a mic to get how I want to sound. It also opens up to play ampless and still get the tone I want going to foh.
I recently did a run of sponsored small/medium hall gigs as part of New Zealand music month. Started out with a bb2 and Bergantino forte hp, moved to bb2/super midget stack with the hp and by the end was using my Four 10 with an Orange AD 200. There was foh support and sound guy commented that any of the rigs would have done the job and they were all great, but the four10 put the biggest smile on his face and really moved the audience. Of course each venue was different and I did change amps with the four 10 so no definitive conclusion. From my perspective onstage I definitely preferred the two twelves stack over a single bb2 but the four 10 was virtually plug and play, the twelves certainly took more eq'ing, as you might expect with their uncolored sound. I just wanted to compare the different rigs over several concurrent nights, still don't know which way I would go if I had to choose between keeping either tens or twelves. Guess I already have the answer......keep both.
