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Dp1363 said:
I just ordered another BB2. Can't wait to see how two BB2's sound with my Mesa D800 and the Lakland.
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How do you like the D800 with one BB2? I am passively shopping for a new lightweight/small amp that is in that 800W range.

Thinking about D800, GK MB800, MB800 Fusion, and Genzler MG800. I haven't played through any of those though I have a GK MB200 and so kinda know GK MB tone.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
How do you like the D800 with one BB2? I am passively shopping for a new lightweight/small amp that is in that 800W range.

Thinking about D800, GK MB800, MB800 Fusion, and Genzler MG800. I haven't played through any of those though I have a GK MB200 and so kinda know GK MB tone.
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I like the D800. The tone is a bit different than I'm used to but in a good way. Definitely has a grinder tone to it than some other amps. You can dial in some great tones though. Lots of low end which sounds great coming out of the BB2.

I do find that it has a bit less power than my Markbass LMT800. I find I need to crank the the D800 a bit more to get the same volume as the LMT800. The fit and finish of the of the D800 is excellent. The price is reasonable, and it's very lightweight.

The other amp I had on my GAS list was the MB800 fusion. I hear it has more of a modern tone, but tons of power. I am also keeping my eye on the Genzler to see how the reviews go. For now I'm keeping the D800 and will be selling the Markbass.
 
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Dp1363 said:
I like the D800. The tone is a bit different than I'm used to but in a good way. Definitely has a grinder tone to it than some other amps. You can dial in some great tones though. Lots of low end which sounds great coming out of the BB2.

I do find that it has a bit less power than my Markbass LMT800. I find I need to crank the the D800 a bit more to get the same volume as the LMT800. The fit and finish of the of the D800 is excellent. The price is reasonable, and it's very lightweight.

The other amp I had on my GAS list was the MB800 fusion. I hear it has more of a modern tone, but tons of power. I am also keeping my eye on the Genzler to see how the reviews go. For now I'm keeping the D800 and will be selling the Markbass.
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Just b/c you turn the potentiometer more clockwise than the LMT800, does not mean it has less power.
If you gradually increase the gain & master on both (careful not to overdrive your cabs) & one runs out of steam or into ugly distortion before the other, then you'll know which one has more power.
The D800 has linear potentiometers on it. A lot of other bass amps really run out of useable power before you get them to 2 or 3 o'clock.
If you've already tried this, then I apologize, but I keep see statements like this w/o context.
Relative potentiometer position is not necessarily meaningful unless it is all the way clockwise & still not the volume you desire.
 
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John D Harris said:
Just b/c you turn the potentiometer more clockwise than the LMT800, does not mean it has less power.
If you gradually increase the gain & master on both (careful not to overdrive your cabs) & one runs out of steam or into ugly distortion before the other, then you'll know which one has more power.
The D800 has linear potentiometers on it. A lot of other bass amps really run out of useable power before you get them to 2 or 3 o'clock.
If you've already tried this, then I apologize, but I keep see statements like this w/o context.
Relative potentiometer position is not necessarily meaningful unless it is all the way clockwise & still not the volume you desire.
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This. It was stated that the pot used in the Mesa isn't the same taper as many other amps, and I believe it was aged horse who said so. I prefer this style of pot. I also have no direct personal experience with this amp.
 
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EDIT: Just got my answer from the Barefaced website. I looked for it, couldn't find it and as soon as I post and go back to looking...there it is. Thanks anyway.

Ok, stupid question here. Will it do any kind of damage to break in my One 10 at low SPL levels? I know that a few hours of high SPL are suggested for breaking it in but that's just not an option right now. So, if I break it in with apartment-volume playing, will it cause any unwanted trouble down the road?

I ask this after putting in about 3-4 hrs of playing time on it so the damage will already be done if there is damage to do.
 
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Cowboy in Latvia said:
Ok, stupid question here. Will it do any kind of damage to break in my One 10 at low SPL levels? I know that a few hours of high SPL are suggested for breaking it in but that's just not an option right now. So, if I break it in with apartment-volume playing, will it cause any unwanted trouble down the road?

I ask this after putting in about 3-4 hrs of playing time on it so the damage will already be done if there is damage to do.
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Just play it and be happy :-)
 
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lomo said:
Just play it and be happy :)
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Good plan. Now I'm just playing with EQ, port direction and placement to better understand my cab. It can get boomy as heck in the room I'm currently playing in so this is a great place to get to know the cab. That way when I play in one of my favorite venues here, a stone-walled cellar, I can already have an idea of what to do to get the best sound.
 
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John D Harris said:
Just b/c you turn the potentiometer more clockwise than the LMT800, does not mean it has less power.
If you gradually increase the gain & master on both (careful not to overdrive your cabs) & one runs out of steam or into ugly distortion before the other, then you'll know which one has more power.
The D800 has linear potentiometers on it. A lot of other bass amps really run out of useable power before you get them to 2 or 3 o'clock.
If you've already tried this, then I apologize, but I keep see statements like this w/o context.
Relative potentiometer position is not necessarily meaningful unless it is all the way clockwise & still not the volume you desire.
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Yes, I know how the linear pots work. I've tested both amps and that is my personal conclusion. I need more volume on my bass volume, more input gain and more master to achieve the same volume on the D800 with everything being relative. YMMV. I've spun the pots in all directions to see where distortions points are etc. Based on my assumptions, the LMT800 has a bit more headroom. Not a huge deal as I am not running the D800 at full volume and running out of critical headroom anyway. Just an observation. I ignore stated power ratings on most amps, as we all know there are many ways to claim power ratings. I use power ratings as a basic guide when looking for an amp for a particular job or specific gig.

I have not seen two particular amps from different companies sound or respond in the same way. All have their specific quirks. Some need to be adjusted more and can sound good run flat. That s what is great about having choices when it comes to bass amps. You can find the amp that fits your needs.
 
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tallboybass said:
Just curious, when you buy from Barefaced, do you just pay the listed price or are there additional fees to bring it into the US, and how do you know how much, if so?
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Duties are about 5% into the USA. No other tax. Really, not bad at all, and shipping is included in the base price. I don't know how it's possible, but according the my tracking record, my cab got to me in less than 24 hours, UK to north central US.
 
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alexclaber said:
This is a useful site if you want to find out: New Import Duty & Taxes Calculation | DutyCalculator
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Alex's calculator (his link) is good. If I recall correctly, I believe Alex said you should select the product category "loudspeaker single diaphragm" but I am sure he can correct me if I have indicated the wrong "loudspeaker" category. It comes out to just a hair under 5%, UK to US. A lot of people, myself included, get that import duty bill in the mail after delivery, from the carrier (i.e, Fedex etc.) Some have indicated they got it with the delivery.
 

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