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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

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Plutonium244 said:
Alex's calculator (his link) is good. If I recall correctly, I believe Alex said you should select the product category "loudspeaker single diaphragm" but I am sure he can correct me if I have indicated the wrong "loudspeaker" category. It comes out to just a hair under 5%, UK to US. A lot of people, myself included, get that import duty bill in the mail after delivery, from the carrier (i.e, Fedex etc.) Some have indicated they got it with the delivery.
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Single diaphragm with the Super Compact or One10, multiple diaphragms with all the others.
 
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Canada was ridiculous. I paid about $600 in duty and taxes on the 810, $131 on the $110 and $54 o the cover

Mind u, that's in Canadian funds so it's more like 400, 85 and 35. US.

But, I am super happy with the new 810
 
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DirtyDuke said:
Canada was ridiculous. I paid about $600 in duty and taxes on the 810, $131 on the $110 and $54 o the cover

Mind u, that's in Canadian funds so it's more like 400, 85 and 35. US.

But, I am super happy with the new 810
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That's about 15% duty vs 5% for the US... you'd think the Canadian government would be less restrictive about imports from the UK... you still have the Queen on your money, for cryin' out loud.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
That's about 15% duty vs 5% for the US... you'd think the Canadian government would be less restrictive about imports from the UK... you still have the Queen on your money, for cryin' out loud.
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Lol. Yep. It's 13% tax plus the importing fee. So yeah. 15-16%.

Oh well. It won't stop me from buying another barefaced
 
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kringle77 said:
My big twin 2 was supposed to show up today, but it sat in Tennessee for about 16 hours before leaving. May get a quick test tomorrow before a di gig.
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Knowing your tone goals, Chris, it seems to me that the BF cabs with his 10" drivers would optimally scratch your (historically unscratchable) itch. What are you looking for from the Big T that the 10s aren't giving you.......or is the quest all in the name of experience :-)


Personally, I am finding the pair of One 10s to be the most sonically delicious, punchy/growly stack I have played.......and the minute footprint and ridonculously light weight are just double cherries on that sundae. The pair of 15 lb lunch boxes puts out volume and rump like a 212!
 
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kringle77 said:
The retro cabs are definitely my thing. I only sold my super twin to buy a big twin. I wanted more top end and to keep things a one cab affair for most gigs. I've got lots off great cabs and am happy to gig any at anytime.
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And thank you, Chris! Although I have to admit, the SuperTwin is SO wonderful, I would love to try a Big Twin 2 just to see....you know.
 
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12 ohm 210 loom arrived.
Hmmm. Not as modular and easy of a swap as I anticipated. I thought I could get at it all via the back panel, but it appears more involved than that. I tried popping the grille off and then considered if I really wanted to pop the speakers out. They didn't budge easily. From my previous wrenching experience, I know myself well enough to know when I lack the proper tools and ability. Everything went back on.

Guess I've learned to ask before buying. Lesson learned.
 
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I've never really given much thought to compression characteristics of cabs. I've done a bit of searching, but I'm still in need of much education on this topic. Tonight, it dawned on me that some of the differences I think I hear between the 110 I had and the 210 I have might compression related. I find myself tuning the 210 up to get a punch and feel that I like, which I thought I got at lower volumes with the 110. I thought this might have something to do with the low end roll-off of a smaller cab. I noticed a similar "feel" difference between the BB2 and the SC and the SM. Now I'm wondering if the smaller enclosures introduce a compression characteristic. Am I on the right path or misunderstanding? Assuming I have a 110 and a 210, and I use the same bass and amp, and I set the volume to the same output level (not the same knob position, but the actual volume in the room), would the 110 have a more compressed sound?
 
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monsterthompson said:
Assuming I have a 110 and a 210, and I use the same bass and amp, and I set the volume to the same output level (not the same knob position, but the actual volume in the room), would the 110 have a more compressed sound?
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My uneducated guess is that this should only occur if you're driving the One10 to near its' excursion limit. In that case, you'd be hearing differences due to compression and probably paper cone breakup as well. For me, the latter is desirable, but not the former. I'll await Alex's expert analysis.......
 
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kringle77 said:
The retro cabs are definitely my thing. I only sold my super twin to buy a big twin. I wanted more top end and to keep things a one cab affair for most gigs. I've got lots off great cabs and am happy to gig any at anytime.
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I presume that these are intended to be separate statements, such as: A.) I like the Retro cabs, and B.) I also like cabs with more top end? The Retro cabs are, indeed, a very cool thing, but obviously, they don't have a lot of top end (compared to the HF driver-equipped Big Twin 2).
 
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Tetris have more too than the supertwin, which I like. It is also delivered in a softer way. I experimented using the st with a pa horn and a 4th order x-over at 2kHz and I got the best of both worlds. Top and dispersion of the retro, fuller lows and mids of the supertwin. Put that in one cab and you have a winner. Crossing over at 2k with a fourth order takes any upper mid clack out of the neo woofers when boosting treble and removes harshness from the horn. Also, dispersion will be even better. I know it looks like I'm always chasing my tail, but it pays off in a much better live sound than average.
 
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lomo said:
My uneducated guess is that this should only occur if you're driving the One10 to near its' excursion limit. In that case, you'd be hearing differences due to compression and probably paper cone breakup as well. For me, the latter is desirable, but not the former. I'll await Alex's expert analysis.......
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That sounds like what I've been reading. I just wasn't sure if cabs had a compression characteristic they could impart, particularly based on the size of the enclosure. I've never seen such an issue discussed, so I'm assuming what I think I'm hearing may seem like what I'm familiar with as compression vs. what is really happening. I'm just trying to describe it the best I can in my amateur Internet ramblings :)

That said, I'm thinking that one of the characteristics I find myself trying to get out of light overdrive is the mild compression it brings. I'm seriously considering picking up a compressor, despite having sold my Diamond not that long ago.
 
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