Jam tonight. Taking the 210 with my Demeter head and my Spector. Should be blissful.
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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Yup that's Monster's old SC at the base (pun intended) with a pair of One 10s above it. I bought a One 10 a couple of months ago, and got a 2nd one from the Duke recently. I could not possibly be happier with my rig.
So you like combining the One10(s) with a SC, eh?
I haven't tried pairing the Big Baby with my One10. Ha, guess I really should, just so I'll know; not sure why I haven't yet, except for being busy and them being relatively new. Alex didn't necessarily recommend mixing tweeted and tweeterless cabs (if I am not misremebering what I recall him saying anyway) but I'd bet those cabs you have all sound good together since they are all tweeterless and Barefaced.
I believe he indicated that mixing them wasn't promoted nor advocated, but that it didn't mean users weren't doing it or dissatisfied with the results.
I have not gigged the full stack. I did one with the SC alone this weekend and it sounded fabulous. I put the 3 together for poops and giggles at home and it sounds superb , but I have no idea what it'll do in a large room.....although my suspicion is it will perform well.
OMFG.
Rig: Spector Forte 4 SS > Demeter VTBP M 800D > Two10
Setting: Power trio with terrible volume control, in a decent sized rehearsal room.
Other new gear: Brought the Gramma Pad and tried out some Earasers ear plugs for the first time.
Result was awesome!
I initially expected to run the Spector in passive mode, based on low-volume solo practice. Instead, I found it fired right up in active and fit just where it should. It growled and cut, but wasn't harsh. The low-mid / upper-lows punched and kicked, but didn't get boomy nor muddy. It just rocked. I can only imagine what a dream a Six10 would be on a big stage. I found I didn't care to engage my dirt pedals much, as the cab sounded lovely with a clean signal. I found the Aguilar Agro at low gain added a bit of presence and definition (I find it accentuates the upper mids and doesn't push the big lows). It usually feels a tad "solid-state" to me, but at volume it felt really natural. I found the BBBOD pretty tasty, with a bit more of vintage vibe (as you'd expect). I thought the W&C TFR sounded good but not wonderful. I think it sucked a bunch of mids out. I was also pushing the cab with an 800w head and I was a tad concerned about pushing the limits with a nasty signal and not realizing I was nearing the speaker limits. I was shocked to find how much I liked the Blower; it usually gets too scooped and bright, and the big lows are tough to control, yet the Two10 held on and kept it together at low to medium gain settings.
In general, the sound was warm and muscular. It was a solid rock to hard rock tone, maybe even older metal, though not particularly djent-like. It's also hard not to hear that Spector sound and not think 90's. It wasn't Motown, though I feel I could've eq'd it to fake it. It also wasn't a slap or modern hi-fi sound. With the SC and SM, I found myself wanting to use the pedals more. to color the sound through the transparency of the 12" box. With this rig (and maybe another Two10) I'd be happy to roll in and rock most settings, plugging right in with no pedals. As much as I loved the 12" G3 boxes, this beast is definitely special. I still need to try it out with my other basses. It could just be that I found a great combo of sounds. Perhaps my P and/or J won't be as magical. Regardless, bravo to Barefaced.
Rig: Spector Forte 4 SS > Demeter VTBP M 800D > Two10
Setting: Power trio with terrible volume control, in a decent sized rehearsal room.
Other new gear: Brought the Gramma Pad and tried out some Earasers ear plugs for the first time.
Result was awesome!
I initially expected to run the Spector in passive mode, based on low-volume solo practice. Instead, I found it fired right up in active and fit just where it should. It growled and cut, but wasn't harsh. The low-mid / upper-lows punched and kicked, but didn't get boomy nor muddy. It just rocked. I can only imagine what a dream a Six10 would be on a big stage. I found I didn't care to engage my dirt pedals much, as the cab sounded lovely with a clean signal. I found the Aguilar Agro at low gain added a bit of presence and definition (I find it accentuates the upper mids and doesn't push the big lows). It usually feels a tad "solid-state" to me, but at volume it felt really natural. I found the BBBOD pretty tasty, with a bit more of vintage vibe (as you'd expect). I thought the W&C TFR sounded good but not wonderful. I think it sucked a bunch of mids out. I was also pushing the cab with an 800w head and I was a tad concerned about pushing the limits with a nasty signal and not realizing I was nearing the speaker limits. I was shocked to find how much I liked the Blower; it usually gets too scooped and bright, and the big lows are tough to control, yet the Two10 held on and kept it together at low to medium gain settings.
In general, the sound was warm and muscular. It was a solid rock to hard rock tone, maybe even older metal, though not particularly djent-like. It's also hard not to hear that Spector sound and not think 90's. It wasn't Motown, though I feel I could've eq'd it to fake it. It also wasn't a slap or modern hi-fi sound. With the SC and SM, I found myself wanting to use the pedals more. to color the sound through the transparency of the 12" box. With this rig (and maybe another Two10) I'd be happy to roll in and rock most settings, plugging right in with no pedals. As much as I loved the 12" G3 boxes, this beast is definitely special. I still need to try it out with my other basses. It could just be that I found a great combo of sounds. Perhaps my P and/or J won't be as magical. Regardless, bravo to Barefaced.
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but, this is a huge thread and I'm a lazy ass. Could someone who has played both, discuss the differences between the Super Midget and the Big Baby II ? I know the BB has the waveguide, complex crossover/horn driver as opposed to the tweeter in the SM, but I'm mainly concerned with tonal differences, using the same amp. Any other points welcome, and thanks in advance.
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They have the same crossover, but different mechanisms for the highs. The BB2 is a bit more refined in the highs through the compression driver but it isn't a crazy night and day difference. The BB2 is a much bigger box, and it pushes more lows and volume. The SM sounds more like it has a HPF that tightens up the lows and makes it a tad punchier. The extra lows on the BB2 aren't boomy or muddy, they are just deeper. Otherwise, they sound fairly similar.
I debated running a pair of SM cabs vs. having a BB2. I think because I do more low volume solo practice than gigging and jamming, the SM pair might be a better fit. However, the BB2 is a one cab solution unless things get stupid loud. I'm mainly running synth sounds through mine, and it keeps up with a drummer and two guitarists pushing lots of volume in a hard music project.
Tone wise, I think they sound very, very similar. The main difference is that the BB2 sounds fuller with a bigger bottom end. I didn't notice much difference in the top end between the SM tweeter and BB2 Horn. Although the BB2 is very light and relatively small for what it does, it seems big if you're familiar with the SM. I think of the SM as the "Little Baby II".
All my personal opinions, of course.
Thanks, guys, just what I am looking for in the way of comments. If you think the BB2 is a one cab solution, would you also call the SM a one cab solution in the same gig setting ?
No. Not for me. The SC is the smallest one cab solution for my volume needs. The SM just wasn't there for me as a single cab when things got loud with a drummer but YMMV. The difference between the SM and BB2 is noticeable when things get loud. At least it was for me.
I agree with Monster in that, while the BB2 should alone support any gig, it may not be true in all cases for the SM.
If everyone can stand another "sorry if this has been discussed before"... What is the Big Twin 2 like to cart around? A relatively easy haul with one hand? Very or somewhat wieldy/very or somewhat unwieldy?
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The Big Twin 2 is pretty similar in size to my Bergantino CN212. I can move the CN212 around with one hand pretty easily but I'm a fairly fit and tall guy. For a long carry I'm still using both handles.
It's light but getting on the bulky side. If I were my younger self, prior to my crippling injury, I'd be delighted with it. Now, while I can manage it, it can be a tad cumbersome on long hauls. The SM was easy. The SC was not as easy as the SM but still easy. The extra depth on the BB2 seems to crate the reduction in easiness for me. The 210 is an easier carry, I think, despite being a couple pounds heavier, because of the size and weight distribution. Of course, I'm a 40 year old guy with partial paralysis on my left side, so YMMV.
This is interesting, as they both have the same power specs. Is it because the SC is a somewhat deeper, wider cab ?
I have two SC's and IMO, I could get away with playing just one at most gigs. They are just so ridiculously light (21 lbs) that I always take both 
