wonderful- thank you wicked! I always appreciate your posts on your amps.
I cant remember- do you also own a TT800? If you do- how does the boogie channel stack up against the terror? They seem to share a lot
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wonderful- thank you wicked! I always appreciate your posts on your amps.
I cant remember- do you also own a TT800? If you do- how does the boogie channel stack up against the terror? They seem to share a lot
Thank you Daniel, I appreciate it. Yes I do own a TT800 and it is quite different from the Terror. I would say the Terror Bass hits harder and sounds thicker to my ears. It's also more of a set it and forget it head and as you increase the gain it gets a nice crunchy sound.
The TT800 on the other hand really cuts through nicely. It may not hit hard through a ported cab, but it has what I would call a more enveloping sound and feel to it. I would say it is more versatile as well.
And as you increase the gain it begins to get gritty. With a high output bass it can distort quite a bit although quite differently than the Orange. They are both pretty different from each other. Hope this helps.
The DI from the mkII is way better than the mkI. I liked the mkI, but was not my preferred DI (The OB1-500 has one of the best sounding DIs for recording out there). I normally use the LBT live, because of portability and girth. The mkII is on the same portability page, but saturates differently. Quite pleasant sounding.
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The Deep Purple Orange Crush Bass 50 Combo has shipped.
Yay!!
The Deep Purple Orange Crush Bass 50 Combo has shipped.
Yay!!
Reading through this thread now, but I'm unexpectedly in the market for a new head, and Orange have caught my ear. I'm currently using a VT Bass as a preamp, bit quite fancy trying a head's own preamp instead.
- OB1-500: This is the one I'm currently most interested in. I'm not in particular need of a completely clean tone, and the drive sounds good on videos I've heard. My main question with this is, how does it take pedals? Any issues or thoughts on using separate drives with it? (Li'l Fella/Rat, not fuzz).
- Little Bass Thing: Looks to be a more portable, cleaner version of the OB1 in a Class D package - not sure if I'm accurate with that assumption! Major concern is that apparently the DI is post-master volume, which seems like a big missed opportunity. Although it does give me the option of using my VT Bass into the effects return. Also unsure about the notched volume.
Also looking at the Terror Bass, similar concerns as the LBT as far as DI goes. I also think I slightly prefer the drive on the OB1, perhaps just down to the clean blend.
Any thoughts, opinions, advice, difference perspective etc all welcome!
- OB1-500: This is the one I'm currently most interested in. I'm not in particular need of a completely clean tone, and the drive sounds good on videos I've heard. My main question with this is, how does it take pedals? Any issues or thoughts on using separate drives with it? (Li'l Fella/Rat, not fuzz).
- Little Bass Thing: Looks to be a more portable, cleaner version of the OB1 in a Class D package - not sure if I'm accurate with that assumption! Major concern is that apparently the DI is post-master volume, which seems like a big missed opportunity. Although it does give me the option of using my VT Bass into the effects return. Also unsure about the notched volume.
Also looking at the Terror Bass, similar concerns as the LBT as far as DI goes. I also think I slightly prefer the drive on the OB1, perhaps just down to the clean blend.
Any thoughts, opinions, advice, difference perspective etc all welcome!
The OB1 is an excellent analogue amplifier, takes fuzz and other pedals like a champ, loved it with a muff. As I mentioned before, one of my favourite DI sounds for recording.
LBT compact, portable, great sounding. Send and Return are very useful (Tried it with the bass butler as a pre, or as a slave for the AD200), the DI is great, love it blended with mics. Notched volume is a curse and a blessing: a curse if you play quietly (it goes from barely audible to bloody loud in two stops), a blessing for everything else (set it and forget it, "recall" positions...).
TB is a very nice amp, I don't care much for the hybrid thing, but it does that very good. It ended being too close to my AD for its own good, so I kept the LBT for its advantages and different sound.
Thanks! That's some great input, glad to hear from someone who's tried a few different models.
I guess I'm torn between the OB1 & LBT really. The LBT seems like a sensible purchase (lightweight, readily available gig bag, easy to transport, effects loop, notched volume is manageable if I do use the VT Bass, good pedal platform).
Whereas maybe the OB1 seems like a more 'fun' one - loud & overdriven, can get hairy, but is less of a known quantity for me. Presumably it'll sound great set clean and driven with pedals too, but without the effects loop I do lose the VT Bass option. Would ideally love to try one but that's very unlikely these days.
Tough choice!
I saw that the NecatoR didn't like the hybrid design of the TB500, but that's exactly what I like about it! I haven't owned the other amps, but the comment about the TB sounding close to the AD200B is high praise in my book. In the demos I've seen, the OB1 distortion was not as pleasing to me as that of the TB, but maybe you're looking for a harder edge. The TB can get raspy, but not as much IMO as the OB1's.
Thanks for the input! Yeah, I think for my purposes, the OB1 drive is preferable - I do like the tubey drive of the Terror, but the blend functionality is enough to swing it for me.
It's a shame, as the effects loop on the Terror would be nice to have, and the form factor is better. Ideally I'd love to try them both but I can't see that opportunity coming up.
Try the Terror- the effects loop to run the Butler thru and the size/form/padded gig bag make it VERY attractive to at least take for a spin!
If it's not to your liking- send back for the OB head! Easy peasy!
edit/ I hear you on the "blend" thing though- I'm (hopefully) taking delivery of my Crush Bass 50 on Friday; it has the EQ circuitry based on that OB!
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Hoping I get can get some help here on my Terror Bass v2. I have problems with the amp cutting out. I plugged it into our PA as well to confirm that the DI is not affected. I reached out to Orange and got this response:
Now, I'm having the same problem with my electric as well (Ric->HX Stomp->Orange) so this is not purely an upright pre-amp issue. I'm plugged into a Greenboy 212 and it's nowhere near the crazy loud limit that it can get to.
One weird issue I'm having that may or may not be related: if the amp is plugged into the DI when I turn it off it makes two high pitched wooping sounds almost like a car alarm through the PA.
If you are tripping the limiter then there is some serious level mismatch going on. It is on the power section to keep from blowing, rather than on the input or after the preamp, so it could be that your preamp is running really hot and amplifying sub lows that could be tripping that limiter and not even possible to reproduce or hear. Try rolling off some low end on your acoustic pre and possibly high end as well in case it is happening the other way.
Now, I'm having the same problem with my electric as well (Ric->HX Stomp->Orange) so this is not purely an upright pre-amp issue. I'm plugged into a Greenboy 212 and it's nowhere near the crazy loud limit that it can get to.
One weird issue I'm having that may or may not be related: if the amp is plugged into the DI when I turn it off it makes two high pitched wooping sounds almost like a car alarm through the PA.
It's not that I didn't like it, it's just that it adds a further thing that could go wrong (tubes). It is a great amp and I liked the sound a lot, but I ended going for the flexibility of the LBT. If you can afford just one, the TB is a great starting point. But in the end, I liked all three, so it's more like a taste thing.
Does it keep doing that if you engage the pad and turn the volume of your bass down?
I don't know why I didn't think to try that. I hope I can get this to work. After I switched to the GK as a backup since I was not in the mood to troubleshoot, the guitarist said "yeah, it sounds fine but not as nice as the Orange"
Something super easy you could try is patching a guitar cord in-between your amps Send and Return fx-loop jacks and see if this instantly corrects the problem or not. If it does, your problem was simply being caused by a dirty or defective Shunt in your Return jack.
That little Shunt makes the connection between your preamp & poweramp sections, anytime your NOT using the FX-loop. Patching the Loop with a guitar cord duplicates the job of that shunt. Some guys just leave a very short angled, pedal plug in place as a permanent solution... ~ I've circled the shunt in this jack pic:
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My 1st generation Terror bass amp makes that same super loud wooping sound if I power the amp down while It's DI is still connected to a PA. ~ Lol, soundmen freak out! I've learned to unplug the DI first...
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Hey. So I have an Orange AD200B and a pair of OBC115's. I love the tone, especially for a gig. But man it's getting tough whenever I need to schlep the gear. Anyone add casters to their Orange cabs? Is there a cart I could use to roll a whole stack?
Yes I put casters on my one of my OBC115's and wheel it around as a stack. It made a world of difference moving that stack around. I screwed the casters onto the skids of the cab. Right after I did the same thing to my Genz Benz UBER stack. Much happier now.
