I like the sound of my Goth, and my Gibson. To each their own.
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the one I mentioned for $200 sure wasn't active...seems to be a fair amount of confusion between Epi T-Bird Pro (active), Classic 4 Pro (USA Humbuckers - previous generation of neck through) and Vintage Pro (current generation neck through, new chrome pickups)
Mine's DDed but yeah.well..my pay never goes down..I like that mailbox money..if you know what I mean..

Good to see one of us standing up to the masses. I'll nevef go back to Fender!The Epi Classic Pro is in no way a muddy sounding bass... Are you sure you aren't mistaking it for the regular Epi with the bolt-on neck, which may sound muddy depending on what kinda strings you use... All mine have roundwounds on them and sounds pretty much like an angry piano, with the Classic Pro having more clarity and definition.
You're not. Stand your ground!I don't have an issue... But you do mention your experience with them is limited, which is kinda reflected on your comments on them. To me, it just sounds like you're jumping on the bandwagon of Thunderbird haters, and list all the usual "wrongs" with Thunderbirds, that are in no way true and usually spread by haters that have never tried a Thunderbird...
However I could be wrong...![]()
I moved the rear button to the back of the body. Some say I'm nuts but it's just wood to me. The new location moves the whole bass to my right giving me a natural place to rest my arm, shifts the weight to rid the neckdive( I felt there was some),prevents the body from flipping forward,puts my hand between the two pickups and makes the reach to the lower 5 a lot easier. I love my Bird and so does everyone in my band. Running through my GK it has grit, thunder and presence. I'm glad I didn't listen to the popular opinion.I just put the new Dunlop straplock 4.5" higher than the original strap button and the neckdive is mitigated.
On my 5 string NR EPI Bird, I put a new button on the "Epiphone" plate under the neck joint. Now it(the bass) hangs correctly-for me.View attachment 2988025 View attachment 2988026
I moved the rear button to the back of the body. Some say I'm nuts but it's just wood to me. The new location moves the whole bass to my right giving me a natural place to rest my arm, shifts the weight to rid the neckdive( I felt there was some),prevents the body from flipping forward,puts my hand between the two pickups and makes the reach to the lower 5 a lot easier. I love my Bird and so does everyone in my band. Running through my GK it has grit, thunder and presence. I'm glad I didn't listen to the popular opinion.
All the used Gibbys I see are close to $1k. Besides, with the Gibson, you're still getting the same old TB Plus pickups, black hardware, small headstock, small shaft tuners... if you hanker for a hunk of 60s Thunderbird, the recent Gibbys won't do it for you.$700 clams... sheesh. That's entering used Gibson 'Bird territory, price-wise.
Inflation is up a bit, that goes with a strong economy. Tariffs to China and some other countries are in the works if not already active, but I don't think there's been time for that to be a factor in pricing....yet. That's a fairly recent event.Has the inflation rate risen recently?
What about import tariffs?
What about the international money markets?
Has the US$ fallen in value against other international currencies?
etc., etc.
Glad to hear that. I have always felt that you've gotta have your own thing going I do feel the same .great minds think alike!View attachment 2988025 View attachment 2988026
I moved the rear button to the back of the body. Some say I'm nuts but it's just wood to me. The new location moves the whole bass to my right giving me a natural place to rest my arm, shifts the weight to rid the neckdive( I felt there was some),prevents the body from flipping forward,puts my hand between the two pickups and makes the reach to the lower 5 a lot easier. I love my Bird and so does everyone in my band. Running through my GK it has grit, thunder and presence. I'm glad I didn't listen to the popular opinion.
I'm not sure what goes on at that end of the market. My take is that the price of used Thunderbirds has gone up pretty steeply over the last year or two, especially for Gibsons and higher end Epiphones. I don't know why.Yikes. Are tbirds the most dramatic price diff between new and used?
Then it was a bolt-on, most likely. It's the bottom of the line, but I kinda like those, too. They are their own thing.the one I mentioned for $200 sure wasn't active...
thanx, but I at least know the difference from a bolt-on and a neck thruThen it was a bolt-on, most likely. It's the bottom of the line, but I kinda like those, too. They are their own thing.
If it was a neck through at that price, it was dirt cheap. I don't recall ever seeing a neck through at that price unless there was something screwed up.thanx, but I at least know the difference from a bolt-on and a neck thru
I've never said it was the norm, I'm no T-Bird expert, it was just a blip on the screen moment in my life.If it was a neck through at that price, it was dirt cheap. I don't recall ever seeing a neck through at that price unless there was something screwed up.
Two Vintage Pro's?...That's crazy talk!