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Oh GC, when will you learn?!?
- Thread starter rojo412
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Assuming GC didn't make that up or just take the word of the sheister that traded it in.
T.J. called me back and admitted that he wasn't able to fix the intonation. He said he was sorry that he couldn't fix it for me.
We discussed the bass and he ended up saying that he'd need to find a proper neck for the guitar. He apologized for it as well.
I don't get the sense that he's "prepubescent," (as one TB member jokingly suggested was the problem) but obviously he's not a great tech because he lacks the education necessary in his trade to do it well. It must take very little to become a Fender Authorized Tech.
In any case, I don't believe it was Guitar Center trying to get one over on us, nor that someone brought it in that way. I believe the tech was just faulty in his approach to a repair, and I hope that as a result of our exchange he learned a little something. I know I did.
Peace.
We discussed the bass and he ended up saying that he'd need to find a proper neck for the guitar. He apologized for it as well.
I don't get the sense that he's "prepubescent," (as one TB member jokingly suggested was the problem) but obviously he's not a great tech because he lacks the education necessary in his trade to do it well. It must take very little to become a Fender Authorized Tech.
In any case, I don't believe it was Guitar Center trying to get one over on us, nor that someone brought it in that way. I believe the tech was just faulty in his approach to a repair, and I hope that as a result of our exchange he learned a little something. I know I did.
Peace.
Is it OK to put a Fender certification on a Squier repair tech?
I have the sister to that bass - wonder if the guy who built it got his Fender cert at the same time as the GC guy?
Mine is a standard Jazz body with the longer neck but has been defretted. Mine also has a BadAss II that allows the saddles to move out far enough to intonate. And in my case, the pickups are now "effectively" closer to the bridge than normal for a JB (vs the bass in the OP where the pickups would end up being further away from bridge if bridge could adjust far enough to intonate properly). All in all - the goof on mine works out better than the bass in the OP (at least since mine is fretless) I'd rather have the option for a longer scale vs the shorter scale in the OP - and I like the sound I'm getting with the pickups closer to the saddle than normal.
If I ever get good enough at fretless to not need to look at the lines I could move the saddles back and have a 35"+ scale fretless.
it's a little longer than 34" now - but intonates well with my finger right on the lines. If it had frets I'd need to take the saddles out even further.
27 7/8" from nut is where the neck pickup should be. I've got 60's spacing between pickups but the bridge pickup is about 70's position.
Mine is a standard Jazz body with the longer neck but has been defretted. Mine also has a BadAss II that allows the saddles to move out far enough to intonate. And in my case, the pickups are now "effectively" closer to the bridge than normal for a JB (vs the bass in the OP where the pickups would end up being further away from bridge if bridge could adjust far enough to intonate properly). All in all - the goof on mine works out better than the bass in the OP (at least since mine is fretless) I'd rather have the option for a longer scale vs the shorter scale in the OP - and I like the sound I'm getting with the pickups closer to the saddle than normal.
If I ever get good enough at fretless to not need to look at the lines I could move the saddles back and have a 35"+ scale fretless.
it's a little longer than 34" now - but intonates well with my finger right on the lines. If it had frets I'd need to take the saddles out even further.
27 7/8" from nut is where the neck pickup should be. I've got 60's spacing between pickups but the bridge pickup is about 70's position.
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A guy made an error. Pretty sure everyone wasn't involved. I love guitar center and buy there with confidence knowing if i do not like something i have 45 days to return it.
Eh - there's no money past the 12th fret anyways. And no one will notice if the bass is slightly out of tune, right? 
I have one of those Deluxe basses - love 'em. With the string thru body, the only way to fix it is with the proper replacement neck.
I have one of those Deluxe basses - love 'em. With the string thru body, the only way to fix it is with the proper replacement neck.
I can't believe you caught that rojo412. Fender should hire you to do QA.
Well written and well handled. Thanks for doing the legwork on this and getting to the bottom of things!
The thing that I don't understand is why guitar/bass shops don't fix/correct obvious problems with their instruments, that they know about. I've had the same experience with Sam Ash and a local "mom and pop" store, as well as GC. Don't get me wrong, I do shop at GC, Sam Ash, and my local (1 hr. away) shop. I know that some mistakes happen and are not corrected because someone genuinely "missed" it. What is perplexing, to me, is when I pick up a bass or guitar and find a more "serious" problem (bad pot, bad switch, etc.) than just old strings or a bad set-up, and mention it (calmly and politely) to a salesman and they don't say anything and/or just shrug their shoulders and blow it off. How can they not realize that if they fix/replace the $1.00 (their wholesale cost) part with a moderate amount of labor that I usually (98% percent of the time) will buy the $600 to $1,000 bass/guitar? Also, how many people before and after me have done/will do the exact same thing and the seller will still rather "sit" on an otherwise nice $600 to $1,000 instrument. Retail is all about turnover and making a moderate profit. I can't believe it is more profitable, in the long run, to "sit" on a "defective" instrument for 3 months to 7 years, rather than having "cash in hand". Caveat Emptor, indeed. Sorry for the "rant". Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
Unfortunately this is probably the norm at some places, but the last time I pointed something out at Sam Ash, the tech put it on the bench immediately to fix the problem. I think it was a non-functioning pot on an inexpensive Yamaha bass. Honestly, I was a little surprised at how seriously they took the issue, but I think the GC and Sam Ash stores around here (Philly metro) have raised their game in recent years. With all the competition from on-line retailers, they seem to have realized that their advantage is allowing customers to try before buying, which requires that the instruments be in decent condition. I don't see nearly the same frequency of disasters as I did, say, ten years ago.
Of course, this thread shows that the disasters are still out there.
Some reasons why Talkbass is great:
1) The very existence of this thread with astute observation by OP
2) Affirming opinions of many regarding ramifications of using wrong neck
3) Direct contact with GC to verify and explore issue
4) Confirmation by GC that problem discovered by OP is correct, and a different neck is needed. This confirmation also gives me some satisfaction that honesty and humility exist at GC.
Good work, Talkbass!
1) The very existence of this thread with astute observation by OP
2) Affirming opinions of many regarding ramifications of using wrong neck
3) Direct contact with GC to verify and explore issue
4) Confirmation by GC that problem discovered by OP is correct, and a different neck is needed. This confirmation also gives me some satisfaction that honesty and humility exist at GC.
Good work, Talkbass!
