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Oh. It's not a Fender...

Anyone who can't see the difference between a Läkland Duck Dunn and a Fender Precision Bass, even from the back of the audience, doesn't have an opinion that's worth losing any sleep over, IMHO ;).

FWIW, despite my user name (:ninja:), I'd sooner own a USA Läkland Dunn than any Fender P Bass in current production, as I've got a preference for Jazz Bass necks and block inlays (unlike Fender :mad:)!
 
Well, on the other hand, the first post was a man who has a fender replica by another company. and musicman was opened by leo fender.
I have a lakland, a custom p and a mm sterling. And have nothing against fender, I just don't own any.
But it's fun to see how many people dislike them, yet everyone loves p and j style basses
 
You haven't experienced predjudice until you arrive at something with a Steinberger.The sound usually shuts them up though.

I had a hotel manager say to me in front of a bride who'd booked the band " The 80's want their guitar back"

But my favourites are the engineers who rave about my old P bass - a relic'ed SX with a "Fecker" logo on it. Eejits!!


The tone is in my hands, not the bass
 
Moral of this story is that if we didn't have a billion companies copying fender, it never would've happened.

I don't get how they can copy a body shape and sound while car manufacturers, for example, can't. E.g. Ford couldn't put out a car with an Enzo Ferrari body made from steel and powered by a 4 cylinder, so how can SX (among others) get away with making a bass with a precision body made from ply and lower grade electrics?


Hey SX is made from REAL wood!

But the answer to your question is that Fender, big as they are don't have the money nor clout of a car manufacturer.

Fender DID take the issue of copying body shapes to court to put a stop to it. The courts spun them around and sent them on their way! The court opined that no typical customer would confuse an SX for a Fender simply because it had the same body shape. Case dismissed!

Of course had Fender had the building full of lawyers with nothing to do that say Ford has, the case might have been decided much differently. And then the fun would have begun! The headstock wars are bad enough!
 
I've never owned any Fender bass - not even squire, but I play a Warwick on stage, and that looks like it's a nice expensive bass but looks nothing like a Fender, so I get a lot of "nice bass - what is it?". The only one I got which de-valued my bass was an older musician who hadn't played since the 70's and hadn't heard of Warwick and he asked me "Is that a Washburn?" after seeing the W headstock logo.
 
After about 30 years of playing I have decided I clearly dislike being known and identified more for what tool I play on than my playing itself.
As a father of newborn twins I'm not gonna see much stagetime for a while, but the other day I went slumming and sat in at a Sunday afternoon blues jam in the city (the horror!).

After the prerequisite shuffle, boogie, and some 2/4 country blues chicken scratch thang, when they cleared the stage for the next assembled ensemble, the soundman (who reads novels instead of adjusting the sound) turns to me and leering lustilly at my Certainbass 5 string P/J says "nice bass!".
I kept silent. Did the bass do the playing or did I play the bass? Did I just practice for 30 years to get compliments or insults on which tool I decide to bring to a gig? All in all its really just a !@#$%^ tool right?
Oh yeah- and I haven't owned a "real" Fender in about 15 years.
:rollno:
 
It's amusing tread through this thread. It was simply a question that everyone decided house together bash Fender or defend Fender's honor.

I have never had that happen, b/c seeing a Fender in my hands most people that know me would be surprisedvto see it. A little while back I had a Squier for a few months and people were surprised see me owning a "Fender".
 
I can't understand people who would come up to someone and run down their choice of instrument. It's never happened to me at a gig, but one time when I was in a music store with my Spector Euro one of the workers said "Oh, that thing's a blatant Warwick rip-off". Not many people over here would be familiar with Spectors, but Warwicks are very popular so I guess the guy assumed that my bass was some sort of copy, I'd imagine this is the case with the guys knocking Sadowskys, Laklands etc
 
I can't understand people who would come up to someone and run down their choice of instrument. It's never happened to me at a gig, but one time when I was in a music store with my Spector Euro one of the workers said "Oh, that thing's a blatant Warwick rip-off". Not many people over here would be familiar with Spectors, but Warwicks are very popular so I guess the guy assumed that my bass was some sort of copy, I'd imagine this is the case with the guys knocking Sadowskys, Laklands etc

didn't warwick buy the design of the rebop off spector and call it a streamer?
 
Well, there are so many great bass brands out there. Fender is just one of them - Lakland is another. That being said, I sometimes suspect that to 'regular' people, Fender has become a generic term for a bass guitar. This is probably less true in the guitar department as most are also familiar with another fine brand: Gibson.

That being said, I love my Fenders to death, but I am also very fond of my other basses (Lakland, Celinder, AC, Yahama, Music Man, Rob Allen) ;-)
 
After about 30 years of playing I have decided I clearly dislike being known and identified more for what tool I play on than my playing itself.
Totally +1 on that!
Luckily, 99.9% of the listeners dont give a s**t about the instrument you play. But when they come to the stage after the show and say "hey, good job, man!" - that's what I like to hear.

As a father of newborn twins...
:hyper: Wow, congratulations! Or should I say "good job"...? :smug: