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Ohms FAQ

BUMP.................cause i still see more OHM questions

i really think this or something like it should be a sticky
not cause i want to be famous, heck i am famous, dont you know who i am???? :p
rather, it seems that a lot of questions could be answered up front
but hey, maybe i'll write a book and get famous.......but then again, i wouldnt have input from all of you to make it better and more factual
 
IvanMike...great post...one other typo...

From your parallel speaker impedance calculations....

"For example, three 16 ohm speakers wired in parallel in a cabinet = 3/16, or 5.333333.… ohms. That’s how they get those 5.3 ohm 3x10s btw!"

I believe the fraction should be 16/3 rather than 3/16.

As for 2 ohm cabinets...there are some out there. The old Acoustic 408 4x15 cabinet was 2 ohms. Andy Lewis at Acme will custom build a 2 ohm B4 and I believe that Dave at Avatar will do a 2 ohm cabinet too. Granted, they're not at all common, but they do exist.

Thanks for your excellent efforts on this thread!
 
Mr. voodoobass said:
if i have a valve amp with a 8 and 4 ohm switch it would be "safer"
to use a 2 ohm speaker than a 16 ohm?
i´m not going to try it, what i thought was that it would always be safe to have a higher load no mather if it´s a valve or solid state.
hm i learned something today again.
That's a subject that i only know a little on, it's my undestanding that the plate voltage of a valve amp rises if a load highere that what it is set to power is hooked up to it.
If you want more detailed explinations, you shold ask psycho bass guy.
 
Thank-you IvanMike. That answered a number of questions that I was going to post.

I just got a G-K700RB amp head and I have been looking for a cabinet (2x10). The GK is rated at 380W @ 4 Ohms, and 225W @ 8 Ohms. I was looking for a 4 Ohm cab (I won't likely ever be using more than one cab) because I thought it would be way louder, using the full power of my amp. From your post, it would'nt appear to be that much louder (3 dBs). This would open up a tremendous amount of choice for me, as 4 Ohm cabs seem to be somewhat rare in most manufacturers product line (compared to 8 Ohm offerings, that is). Did I read your post correctly? Or should I pursue the 4 Ohm cab?

Paul.
 
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Thank you psycho -

here's what he said..........

I looked for a link that would sum this up since it seems I've explained this about 100 times. I couldn't find one that that adequately covered things in one post, so here goes. To understand WHY tube amps don't like higher impedances and why they are MUCH more dangerous to tube amps than lower ones, you have to understand what it is in both types of amps that actually does damage.

In solid state amps, the output transistors are connected directly to the speaker load. Since solid state amps put out a constant voltage, the varible that determines power/current is the impedance of the load. Ohms law: P (power)= i (current)/r (resistance). The lower the load (resistance), the greater the amount of current is passed by the output transistors. Current also generates tremendous amounts of heat, which is why if the load is too low, the heat stress on a solid state's output transistors can damage them.

The same rules apply to tube amps, but there is a deciding factor that makes a huge difference. Tubes are extremely high impedance devices, and in order to be connected to a speaker, must be coupled through an output transformer which takes the high voltage/low current output of the tubes and makes a high current/ low voltage output that can drive a speaker. Instead of being constant voltage amplifiers, they are constant current amplifiers.

A transformer is an inductive coil that works by amplifying current and/or voltage. If the transfromer is not connected through a circuit on both its primary and secondary taps, it will feed back on itself and generate a large voltage spike at its connected end. What happens with too high a load connected to the transformer's secondary is that it acts like an open connection and causes feedback within the transformer. Since the primary of the transformer is connected to the plates of the output tubes, this voltage spike hits them first. As long as it doesn't exceed their limit, you're OK, but if it does, you can short them AND your output transformer.

The reason a lower impedance is not so dangerous has to do with the nature of the tubes themselves. If the transformer secondary is connected to a lower than expected impedance, the transformer obeys Ohms law and tries to maintain a constant current, which causes a drop in the voltage of the plates of the tubes and they emit less, so power actually decreases. Some tube amps short themselves to ground when no load is present as a means to protect themslves from inductive feedback. That's as low an impedance as you can get!

That's the short, quick, and dirty, and I can get a lot more detailed if necessary. So if you have any questions, just post them.