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Ok I need another bass amp..

Nov 20, 2022
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Yup I need another bass amp. :bassist:

Not for rock, not for metal, not funk of slapping, maybe not even for standard jazz, but something that's really sensitive, organic and vocal and can stand completely alone.

I know I just bought the new Markbass 58R 500 watt head, and the M58r 151 PURE 400-watt cab.. but I have found that it doesn't quite properly accommodate my 5-string fretless with the piezo pickup.

I have an Ibanez SRF705 5 string fretless that sounds absolutely divine through my Roland JC-40 guitar amp.
The AeroSilk Piezo pickup system sounds very organic, extremely sensitive, articulate and expressive like you cannot imagine. That thing can make you weep simply playing scales..

But as soon as I plug this fretless bass into to the latest MarkBass bass head and cab all of that life seems to get ironed out and flattened.. it sounds almost bland, sterile and lifeless in comparison and the gorgeous 'Muah' I had effortlessly on practically every note on every string on all it’s 3.5 octave neck is completely gone.

The Markbass thunderous beast that it is has turned my hyper sensitive, highly expressive, highly vocal fretless into an ordinary thumping bass guitar.

I have other bass guitars if I need to just thump away.

Before I get castigated I should state that I spent maybe 7 hours yesterday tweaking all the knobs and dials and trying every possible configuration on the head and I still couldn't bring the Ibanez to anywhere near the same level of life it was experiencing on the JC-40.

The Markbass is kind of ok with the Bartolini pickups, (the Roland is still nicer, sweeter and purer though) but that's not what I use at all on this particular bass. I could remove the Bartolini's on this bass and would not even miss them. I spend 100% of my time on the AeroSilk Piezo pickup system. In fact that’s the very reason that I bought it.

I know a lot of people in discussions on here talk about a bass 'cutting through the mix', or occupying a specific frequency range so they able to sit in with a band and other instruments, particularly drummers and loud guitarists...

But that's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a bass amp that accentuates all frequencies and can stand completely alone as a solo instrument. No mix.. no band. Just this bass. I'm looking for the highest sensitivity, high definition, audiophile quality I can get across all the entire tonal spectrum and as expressive and as close as I can get to the human voice 'a cappella'.

Cost is not an issue.

Any recommendations please?
 
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I would be looking at amplifiers specifically designed for acoustic instruments. It seems that you are wanting a system like your JC that has more focus on the higher frequencies of your bass than a "standard" electric bass amplifier. AER is one of the best in that market:-
AER - The Acoustic People - The reference class acoustic amplifiers
 
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If cost was not an issue I would buy this:

Rheingold B100 - Rheingold-Music

Super HIFI full tube head, discribed as organic and touch responsive.
From what I read on their Facebook page, the majority of bassists who use these amps play jazz, which doesn't mean that it is limited to jazz music, but at least it should be well suited for a very sensitive playing style, fretless.

Or this:

the Offset XL – Bass Amplifier

(or both :))
 
If cost was not an issue I would buy this:

Rheingold B100 - Rheingold-Music

Super HIFI full tube head, described as organic and touch responsive.
From what I read on their Facebook page, the majority of bassists who use these amps play jazz, which doesn't mean that it is limited to jazz music, but at least it should be well suited for a very sensitive playing style, fretless.

OMG Gtirard Thank you! :hyper:

I don't think I have ever heard anything so pure! I'm sitting here listening on 150 watt high end near-field studio monitors.. that sound is right in my face, I can almost physically touch it. That's the sound right there..

Emailing them right now!!!

 
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I'm very happy with my Fender Rumble 500 combo. It has very pronounced mids and highs while still delivering punch. With my fretless I need to turn the treble down on the amp. It really has all the frequencies and attack that I need in an amp. It's not exactly flat, but you can find the EQ settings for a flat response here on talkbass in the Rumble club. Haven't tried it with a extension cab yet. When I got this combo my choice was this one, the ampeg, and the markbass, all 2x10 with similar power. I went for the Rumble as it seemed to be the most clean in comparison videos. Also seems to be the most trustworty in the long run.
 
It's exactly that.. the sound I'm looking for is a spiritual quest more than a simple tone quest.

The universe is conspiring to assist me, I emailed Ampeg have not had a reply in a week.. AEG same story.

Rheingold emailed me back in 15 minutes. Guess who wins. Ordering soon as they are built to order then I will probably got to Germany to collect it myself. If that's not viable i will just have to have it shipped with the stiff import duty of about 20%..

Oh well.. I've spent more than that in a bar before.. and I was alone (to start).:cautious:

Fretless..



"Give a man a band and he can jam for a day, give a man a tone and he can feed himself for a lifetime"
- Dm7b5 - 2023
 
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OMG Gtirard Thank you! :hyper:

I don't think I have ever heard anything so pure! I'm sitting here listening on 150 watt high end near-field studio monitors.. that sound is right in my face, I can almost physically touch it. That's the sound right there..

Emailing them right now!!!

If cost is not an issue, Rheingold is a good choice. IMHO they are a bit overpriced for what they do, but these amps and cabs really deliver!
 
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If cost is not an issue, Rheingold is a good choice. IMHO they are a bit overpriced for what they do, but these amps and cabs really deliver!

I guess you get what you pay for in this world.. I for one will take hand-built German tech know how over Korean cheap labour mass production any day of the week.

Life is too short to deny oneself the occasional good thing. I

t amazes me that people will spend 30 years and more of their life diddling endlessly with an instrument.. but won't work a week or two to get the bits required to make it actually sound good.
 
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I guess you get what you pay for in this world.. I for one will take hand-built German tech know how over Korean cheap labour mass production any day of the week.

Life is too short to deny oneself the occasional good thing. I

t amazes me that people will spend 30 years and more of their life diddling endlessly with an instrument.. but won't work a week or two to get the bits required to make it actually sound good.

It's a bit like Fodera, I guess. They do top notch equipment, and I guess they found a point of balance between orders and prices, which is able to upset some people.
 
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Yup I need another bass amp. :bassist:

Not for rock, not for metal, not funk of slapping, maybe not even for standard jazz, but something that's really sensitive, organic and vocal and can stand completely alone.

I know I just bought the new Markbass 58R 500 watt head, and the M58r 151 PURE 400-watt cab.. but I have found that it doesn't quite properly accommodate my 5-string fretless with the piezo pickup.

I have an Ibanez SRF705 5 string fretless that sounds absolutely divine through my Roland JC-40 guitar amp.
The AeroSilk Piezo pickup system sounds very organic, extremely sensitive, articulate and expressive like you cannot imagine. That thing can make you weep simply playing scales..

But as soon as I plug this fretless bass into to the latest MarkBass bass head and cab all of that life seems to get ironed out and flattened.. it sounds almost bland, sterile and lifeless in comparison and the gorgeous 'Muah' I had effortlessly on practically every note on every string on all it’s 3.5 octave neck is completely gone.

The Markbass thunderous beast that it is has turned my hyper sensitive, highly expressive, highly vocal fretless into an ordinary thumping bass guitar.

I have other bass guitars if I need to just thump away.

Before I get castigated I should state that I spent maybe 7 hours yesterday tweaking all the knobs and dials and trying every possible configuration on the head and I still couldn't bring the Ibanez to anywhere near the same level of life it was experiencing on the JC-40.

The Markbass is kind of ok with the Bartolini pickups, (the Roland is still nicer, sweeter and purer though) but that's not what I use at all on this particular bass. I could remove the Bartolini's on this bass and would not even miss them. I spend 100% of my time on the AeroSilk Piezo pickup system. In fact that’s the very reason that I bought it.

I know a lot of people in discussions on here talk about a bass 'cutting through the mix', or occupying a specific frequency range so they able to sit in with a band and other instruments, particularly drummers and loud guitarists...

But that's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a bass amp that accentuates all frequencies and can stand completely alone as a solo instrument. No mix.. no band. Just this bass. I'm looking for the highest sensitivity, high definition, audiophile quality I can get across all the entire tonal spectrum and as expressive and as close as I can get to the human voice 'a cappella'.

Cost is not an issue.

Any recommendations please?
Take a look at Acoustic Image Clarus 2 S4 amp.
You may need more of a high fidelity bass amp.
My HA5500 is more of a HI FI amp.
bb amp.jpg
 
Yup I need another bass amp. :bassist:

Not for rock, not for metal, not funk of slapping, maybe not even for standard jazz, but something that's really sensitive, organic and vocal and can stand completely alone.

I know I just bought the new Markbass 58R 500 watt head, and the M58r 151 PURE 400-watt cab.. but I have found that it doesn't quite properly accommodate my 5-string fretless with the piezo pickup.

I have an Ibanez SRF705 5 string fretless that sounds absolutely divine through my Roland JC-40 guitar amp.
The AeroSilk Piezo pickup system sounds very organic, extremely sensitive, articulate and expressive like you cannot imagine. That thing can make you weep simply playing scales..

But as soon as I plug this fretless bass into to the latest MarkBass bass head and cab all of that life seems to get ironed out and flattened.. it sounds almost bland, sterile and lifeless in comparison and the gorgeous 'Muah' I had effortlessly on practically every note on every string on all it’s 3.5 octave neck is completely gone.

The Markbass thunderous beast that it is has turned my hyper sensitive, highly expressive, highly vocal fretless into an ordinary thumping bass guitar.

I have other bass guitars if I need to just thump away.

Before I get castigated I should state that I spent maybe 7 hours yesterday tweaking all the knobs and dials and trying every possible configuration on the head and I still couldn't bring the Ibanez to anywhere near the same level of life it was experiencing on the JC-40.

The Markbass is kind of ok with the Bartolini pickups, (the Roland is still nicer, sweeter and purer though) but that's not what I use at all on this particular bass. I could remove the Bartolini's on this bass and would not even miss them. I spend 100% of my time on the AeroSilk Piezo pickup system. In fact that’s the very reason that I bought it.

I know a lot of people in discussions on here talk about a bass 'cutting through the mix', or occupying a specific frequency range so they able to sit in with a band and other instruments, particularly drummers and loud guitarists...

But that's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a bass amp that accentuates all frequencies and can stand completely alone as a solo instrument. No mix.. no band. Just this bass. I'm looking for the highest sensitivity, high definition, audiophile quality I can get across all the entire tonal spectrum and as expressive and as close as I can get to the human voice 'a cappella'.

Cost is not an issue.

Any recommendations please?
Traynor YBA-100. I totally depend on it for my solo stuff. It's nice that it's not expensive, but it's also the only amp I keep coming back to at any price:

 

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