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Old creaky fingers around my neck

Richie Se7en

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Apologies if this isn't the correct forum for this, but I wasn't sure so I'll go ahead anyway.

In the past few months I've begun learning to play again after 45 years - which was at age 13 for only one summer. I tried again in the mid-90's - bought a new Fender P and SWR Combo - but I became fully consumed by my business and the gear got stored away. Anyway, I'm almost fully retired now, with plenty of free time to resume my playing and learning, but... I'm starting to ramble now, so I'll get to the point.

I have slightly below average sized hands, but to blame that would be a cop-out, since all good players I've seen don't seem to need large hands. What I do have are circulation problems caused from something called Raynaud's Syndrome, which numbs my fingers at any hint of cold or damp air and, pushing 60, my fingers have aged as bad as the rest of my body. There's a point here somewhere, oh - bass necks. Right now I'm playing and trying to learn mainly on that Fender Precision, but the 'finger per fret' thing on the low end is like a bad dream for me as it stands.

Can anyone advise me on the more easily playable neck configurations to help bring me along? I've tried to do my homework, and I've formed some opinions, but I realized the best advice could be obtained from the range of experience in this community. Here are a few of my thoughts/questions - and your thoughts on anything I've missed or have mistaken would be much appreciated.

I purchased a Gibson SG Special, with high hope for the shorter scale, and although it's a decent bass and I like playing it sometimes, it just doesn't feel right, I assume because most of my playing time has been on the Fender P, but whatever the reason, I don't think short-scale is the answer for me.

I've learned that the Jazz bass has a more tapered neck, but how much of a difference is there from the Precision, and is this my best option long-term? I hate to admit being a bit 'spoiled' by the nice, solid feel of the Fender P, along with a preference for Fender instruments, and I find the Jazz to be similar in quality.

My main question here is about the radius aspect of bass necks, and how much of a factor it is to my situation. I understand the meaning of radius, but I'm having trouble understanding the merits of 'compound radius' and if it's a plus or minus in my search for the bass I can wrap my fingers around (weak pun). I ask because I sampled a Fender Select Jazz some months back and recall it feeling really good - don't know if the compound radius was a factor in that, but I'm currently eyeing that model with hope. Problem is there aren't any around here now to feel out, but I'm willing for a leap of faith at this point.

Please lend your advice on this and/or some thoughts on particular models that may fit my need and help me to avoid the possible oncoming loss of confidence in something I've loved and wanted to do for most of my life. Thanks in advance for any help and my apologies for this novel-length post.

Richie
 
Right now I'm playing and trying to learn mainly on that Fender Precision, but the 'finger per fret' thing on the low end is like a bad dream for me as it stands.

"One finger per fret" in the lowest positions is also like a bad dream for me, at half your age, and for the majority of pro players, who don't use it either.

What I recommend is to find a teacher who can teach you the 1-2-4 fingering system that spans 3 frets instead of 4 frets. This will be much more comfortable and keep your hands relaxed. :)

My hands are relatively small as well (my left hand pinky is 5.5cm, how long is yours?) and yet I enjoy playing P bass, 5 string bass, and upright. It is all about having proper technique. Electric bass guitar is one of the easiest instruments of all to play, in terms of the amount of physical force/strain it requires. (True artistry of course requires great mental effort, and bass is no easier nor harder than any other instrument in that department!)
 
Compound radius is usually referring to the curvature of the fretboard being different at lower and higher frets. Shouldn't impact how the back of the neck feels at all.

The most important thing I'd recommend is making sure your bass is properly set up for how you want to play. Make sure the string height, neck relief and string gauge aren't making it more difficult for you to play.
 
Thanks for the replies, which all have merit, and I really do appreciate the advice. Instead of blabbering on in my OP, before asking my question I should've just summarized this point: I'm not looking to 'master' the instrument - I'm 58, and I doubt that would be possible if I were 28, because I'm not sure if it can be mastered. I'm progressing at a nice pace and I pick songs up fairly easily and relatively quickly, but I'm not looking to be in a proper band or play out for pay. All I want is to be able to jam with my friends without too many limitations, and obtain the dexterity needed to cover as many particular tracks/lines that we decide to tackle at the next session. If finding a neck that plays easier helps add to this, I'll gladly try it.

Mushroo - The 1-2-4 fingering is pretty much how I've been playing most of what I've learned and I'm doing fairly well with it. It's just that some songs have lines where use of that ring digit would make things easier - or maybe a more playable neck.

hdracer - The fretboard/neck on 5-strings I've tried feel too hard to navigate for me consider right now.

lz4005 - You're advice is quite helpful, as I do have fairly heavy gauge strings (Roto Flats) on the P, so now I'll try a set of light gauge. I don't think I'll lose much of the beefy sound I prefer.

Could anyone explain if the Fender compound radius would be considered beneficial to my situation or - better yet - what's the intended desirability of it's design? I still have a strong desire to get my hands on that Fender Jazz Select - in the hope it'll feel even better now that I can actually play a little bit.

Thanks again for the replies!

Rich
 
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I'm 68, got small hands with arthritic fingers. Knuckles so big you'd have to saw my wedding band off. I have basses from an Ibanez BTB 6-string (35" scale) down to a Kala U-Bass. I've found an Ibanez Mikro is what I spend most of my time on. 28.5" scale, I put black tape LaBellas on on it, foam mute back by the bridge. It's the one that sits beside me every night! And the sound is killer — never thought a under $200 short scale could sound so good. My hands love it.

Also, if your hands are temperature sensitive, I wear a soft cotton glove on my fretting hand. I get questioned about it. Then I saw Scott Devine wears one because of a medical condition, so I don't feel weird about it any more.
 
Hi Larry and thanks for the reply. I have seen Scott playing with his gloves and that would be an option for me regarding the problem with playing when it's cold or damp. Plus, the tape wound strings have been a necessity for me from the start and I have them on both guitars, although the Roto's on the P-Bass seem pretty tense, so I think I'm going to try a lighter gauge string as has been previously suggested.

As I mentioned in my initial post, I have a short-scale Gibson SG which I can navigate fairly well, but it just doesn't compare to the Fender in many areas, IMHO. I think in time (with good practice habits) I'll be able to play a 34" scale. I'm hoping the Jazz neck feels more "playable" and I will see a difference compared to the Precision. Thanks again for the advice and have a great weekend.

Richie
 

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