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old noob looking for cab suggestions

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Hartke - I run a VERY flexible system, each piece weighing under 70 lbs... I have a Hartke 1x15 cab for booming low end, a 4x10 cab for better full range sound, and a 2x10 for tight punchiness... Now though I have all this stuff, I take what I need for the gig... I have a Hartke 3500 amp which will power them all reasonably well (personally, I've never had the volume past 5 - and that was an outdoor show for 500+ people) For the money, and value you get, I stand behind Hartke!!!
 

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Thumpin6string said:
Epifani 410UL. Handles up to 1000 watts and weighs 56 pounds. It's a thumpin cabinet.
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I had one and loved it. It was 4 ohms and combined well with an 8 ohm UL1 210 (33 lbs) and 2 ohm capable head. Now days, UL1 410 cabs are hard to find, and the newer UL2 models are significantly heavier, I believe, due to the shortage of rare earth magnets when they were in production.
 
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Thumpin6string said:
Here is one:
Epifani UL410,ul410 Bass Guitar Cabinet | eBay
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Price is a bit high, IMHO. I got one for $450 a few years ago. Parted with it once I found fEARful 15/6/1 cabinets, lol. However, if I needed a cabinet and lived in driving distance, this one would be attractive.

The thing is, I have parted ways with 410's largely because the dispersion of the mid-range and upper mid-range is so poor.
 
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Jim Carr said:
Price is a bit high, IMHO. I got one for $450 a few years ago. Parted with it once I found fEARful 15/6/1 cabinets, lol. However, if I needed a cabinet and lived in driving distance, this one would be attractive.

The thing is, I have parted ways with 410's largely because the dispersion of the mid-range and upper mid-range is so poor.
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Price seems average to me from what I've seen. $400-600 on here, Ebay and Reverb. Only have $150 in mine, but it was a crazy deal. I haven't noticed any lack of midrange on mine at all and I'm running a Streamliner 900, which several TBers say doesn't match well. It works for me.
 
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Thumpin6string said:
Price seems average to me from what I've seen. $400-600 on here, Ebay and Reverb. Only have $150 in mine, but it was a crazy deal. I haven't noticed any lack of midrange on mine at all and I'm running a Streamliner 900, which several TBers say doesn't match well. It works for me.
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That's a nice combination and a really killer deal, IMHO. The issue with mids for me was the off-axis response. In effect, they sound glorious from the front, but once you are about 40 degrees or more to the side, you only get the lows.

I've heard this many times live, and it's not an issue with the UL410 only, it is an effect one observes in all 310, 410, 412, and 415 designs, when the drivers are not in a vertical column. Sadly, it is just the physics of sound.
 
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Jim Carr said:
That's a nice combination and a really killer deal, IMHO. The issue with mids for me was the off-axis response. In effect, they sound glorious from the front, but once you are about 40 degrees or more to the side, you only get the lows.

I've heard this many times live, and it's not an issue with the UL410 only, it is an effect one observes in all 310, 410, 412, and 415 designs, when the drivers are not in a vertical column. Sadly, it is just the physics of sound.
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Obviously you are more versed in all of the dynamics of cabs than I am. Never noticed any difference from other angles and have got compliments on my tone from people in multiple locations. Guess I'm just lucky.:D
 
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Thumpin6string said:
Obviously you are more versed in all of the dynamics of cabs than I am. Never noticed any difference from other angles and have got compliments on my tone from people in multiple locations. Guess I'm just lucky.:D
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Thanks for the kind words.

Most people hear us coming from reflected sound, or a full range PA, too.
 
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If you like 2x10’s a pair of Ampeg SVT210AV cabs will make you very happy. I bought a used pair and push them with either an Ampeg Portaflex or Fender Rumble head. I agree with the thread that Stumbo posted, stacking them vertically yields an immersive tone, and you have the flexibility to use just one of them when you don’t want both.
 
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Barefaced Two10 @4 ohms (some have switchable impedance).

Old school tone, no tweeter, bottom/side ported (depending on how it is arranged), and 30 lbs. If you find used, they are worth every penny of the $200 over what you are looking to spend.
 
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marqueemoon said:
Hey, everybody. It's been a really long time since I've been in the market for a bass rig, but after borrowing stuff for a while I think it's time to take the plunge again.

I've already picked the head. After trying a bunch of mid to budget priced Class D things I went back to my first love and bought a GK 400RB. I play a P Bass with rounds. It's high time I changed them, but I tend to like em' pretty dead. I also run an "always on" compressor.

I play in a three piece (guitar/bass/drums) indie rawk band with a pretty average hitting drummer. The guitar player uses a Fender Vibrolux (2x10, 35ish watts). Stage volumes are pretty modest and the venues we play tend to be on the smaller side. Usually I'll get a DI at the clubs, so the cab is mainly about stage monitoring and adding some tonal sauce.

Hoping to find something smaller/lighter than the Carvin 4x10 I've been borrowing that can still get the job done.
  • small, but not comically so
  • light-ish (let's say under 60 pounds)
  • front ported (my practice space is tiny so chances are it will be slammed up against a wall)
  • more on the old school sounding end of the spectrum. I like midrange :)
  • not too expensive - I'd like to keep it around $500 used
  • understated looking (not glaringly modern or trying too hard to look retro)
  • efficient. It would be great to be able to run it with my old 50W Bassman head for certain situations.
Of the things I've tried so far a Bag End D12-D has been my favorite sound-wise, but it would be nice if it were like 20 pounds lighter. I'm not opposed to high frequency drivers, but I tend to keep them low or completely off.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Within your $500 budget, I'd suggest you look at the Eden EX210. Street price on them is ~$449. This is the one EX cab that has a separate horn tweeter. The 4 ohm version would get all 280-watts out of your 400RB head and it will handle 300-watts, so it would be a nice match. 8 ohm version would get 150-watts, but would allow you to add another cab if you wanted to.

You can probably find a used Eden D210XLT of D210XST for about that same $500. Those are Eden's best cabs but they sound significantly different from each other. The XLT has a built-in low mid hump that just sounds great playing on stage. The XST has both a lower and tighter bottom end, but otherwise a flat frequency response. You'll need to dial in some low-mid boost at ~250Hz to get a similar sound as the XLT but with a better low end. The D210XLT's are easier to find and both are better than the EX model but surprisingly not twice the price better. Original price on them was $800 to $950.
 

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