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Double Bass Olive G lovefest

Love the Olive G. Been using them for a few years. One snapped at the nut in my gig bag. Looked like a very strange broken Jack in the Box. Luckily I had as spare Spiro. Couldn't get over how thin the Weich G was. Replaced at quickly as possible with another Olive.

P.S. Strings will not make you play better or make your intonation better. It's just a personal choice. However, shedding will greatly improve your overall playing. I will not post the jazz robots again but they speak the truth!
 
Bumparoo: I've decided to do a full setup on my bass and my one year old Olive is done. The winding is loose at the bridge and messy in the pegbox. I'm dressing the board, cutting a new bridge, nut and making a wood endpin/assembly. So, since the bass will be taken down I've been struggling with the idea of springing for a new Olive. Also, the EP weichs are done. Gonna try Spirocore Mitts E, A with EP regular D and G. My growing collection has everything but the EP G which is about $80 cheaper than the Olive and I hope I can live with it. The Olive is a beautiful, fragile, expensive thing.

Well the setup was long overdue but the string experimentation didn't work too well. The bass responds so well now that the EP weichs sound like new strings. I put the EP regular G on today and like it. Although it lacks the meaty feel and complexity of the Olive, it's got a blunt attack, is dark enough to make it a reasonable substitute. I never liked the EP weich G but the regular gauge is OK. It's not an Olive but I'll give it a fair chance and it may stay.
 
I'm in love with my Olive G.

It's the string that keeps staying on the bass. I had it with D/A/E Mittels and that worked great. Then I couldn't resist and put the D on and that was a lot of fun. The D sounded huge, but it didn't stay because I felt it didn't match that well with the Mittel A.

Searching for a solution in my string box I put on Obligatos D and A, with my Olive G and Mittel E and to my surprise, it was a great combination! I felt they matched really well in tension, bow response, pizz, punch...

Has anyone else tried Oblis with our dear Olive G?
Also, any suggestions to match the Oblis with an E string....I'm not too happy with the Spiro E...
 
I've tried a Smittel E with Obligatos and EP weichs, most recently with the latter because the E sounded weak with just about every string combo I tried. That was before doing a full setup several weeks ago and now the EP weich E is every bit as loud and solid as the other strings. So, think about a trip to your luthier.

I just put a new oliv G and D next to the EP weich A and E. The G is as glorious as expected, but the D sounds pretty thuddy. It's getting better and I'm going to give it some time.
 
Had the Olive G on my Pollmann and loved the sound. Then, after three months, the metal wrapping loosened up in two places, one near "C" and one near "F". Had to take it off. It's too expensive to get only three months use. I've been using Velvet Animas since, but I just bought Gamut Pistoy G and D to try. Haven't installed them yet because I've got four important gigs soon, and want to try them without any pressure. I wish that Pirastro would solve the Olive wrap problem. I know that I'm not the only one to experience it.
 
I took great care in filing the nut and bridge before installing the D. Within about 24 hrs, the string was beginning to speak and after six days it's sounding great. Although I haven't had the occasion to really push it, there have been two trio gigs and a duo with a guitar player tonight. The bass is sounding better than ever and I ain't changin' nuthin'......
 
Had the Olive G on my Pollmann and loved the sound. Then, after three months, the metal wrapping loosened up in two places, one near "C" and one near "F". Had to take it off. It's too expensive to get only three months use. I've been using Velvet Animas since, but I just bought Gamut Pistoy G and D to try. Haven't installed them yet because I've got four important gigs soon, and want to try them without any pressure. I wish that Pirastro would solve the Olive wrap problem. I know that I'm not the only one to experience it.

I don't know if there's much Pirastro can do about the wrap problem. You're trying to combine two completely un-like materials together and expecting them to react to heat, humidity, tension, and torsion the same way.

When I was a kid Canada first introduced our $2 coin (the Toonie). Due to problems with the alloys and the mechanism used to lock them in place, the first batch of toonies had a problem with the center popping out if you froze them or hit them too hard. My dad has used the same principle (both heat and cold) to get two closely fitting pieces together in his metal working hobby.

And that's two pieces of metal that react relatively similarly and in a stable manner. Now think about wrapping gut, which swells and shrinks with humidity, as well as thinning under tension (as well as every time you pull the string with your finger or bow, albeit on a much smaller scale), with metal, albeit very soft and malleable metal. Metal is much less affected by humidity ( i would say not at all, but i'm not a chemist so I can't make that judgement), and takes much more tension before it stretches anywhere close to the amount that gut stretches. the two materials react so differently it's a credit to the engineers at Pirastro (and other companies) that they play along together as well as they do.

I think what really needs to happen is either Pirastro offers up their gut strings for less so that buying a new set every year isn't completely unfeasible for the performing musician, OR, as is a more practicable and monetarily reasonable option, they need to offer re-winding (as Gamut or Dlugolecki do) for a small fee. That way they can continue to offer a quality product, and we can continue to use that product in manner that is cost-effective for us and for them. if they did offer such a service, I think a lot more people (myself included) would be more interested in using their product. I love the way the Eudoxas sound especially, but I'm still a student and I can't afford 600 bucks every year even for a string of that quality.

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revamping this thread! Just bought an Oliv D/G from the classifieds and I'll be putting them on next week. Wondering who's using Olivs so I don't feel alone here :D. Also I was hoping someone could let me know about taking care of them. What I know right now is that I should wipe them down frequently, detune them 1/4th of a step after playing sessions and clean them with string cleaner ever week but anything I'm missing (other than praying). Thanks!
 
Tune down a 1/4 step? That's new to me. Seems like that would allow for premature winding separation -- no?

I've had the same Olive G on for almost two years now (over spiro weich), and it is just now starting to show some wear ... and I play a lot ... orchestra, chamber, bluegrass and jazz. My usual treatment for getting rosin off metal strings has been to pinch the strings in a rag and rub up/down till it gets warm enough to melt away. Never had a problem ... until the Olive G. I noticed a few months ago that the winding in the bowing area is separating a bit, so I don't rub it down anymore!!! We're not supposed to use alcohol on gut strings (so I understand), so I don't really know how to clean rosin off the Olive G.
 
Tune down a 1/4 step? That's new to me. Seems like that would allow for premature winding separation -- no?

I've had the same Olive G on for almost two years now (over spiro weich), and it is just now starting to show some wear ... and I play a lot ... orchestra, chamber, bluegrass and jazz. My usual treatment for getting rosin off metal strings has been to pinch the strings in a rag and rub up/down till it gets warm enough to melt away. Never had a problem ... until the Olive G. I noticed a few months ago that the winding in the bowing area is separating a bit, so I don't rub it down anymore!!! We're not supposed to use alcohol on gut strings (so I understand), so I don't really know how to clean rosin off the Olive G.

Thats what I thought in regards to the tuning but I remember reading somewhere on here that people did that. Also on pirastros website they say to tune them down after playing. They also recommended wiping them down with pirastro string cleaner. Do you have any secret to having had it on that long or are you one of the lucky ones?
 
... Also on pirastros website they say to tune them down after playing. They also recommended wiping them down with pirastro string cleaner. Do you have any secret to having had it on that long or are you one of the lucky ones?

Interesting ... I'll have to try Pirastro's string cleaner ... what's in it? My long life secret? Maybe it's the dry air here in the Denver area.

My Olive-G tends to be a tad sharp in the morning ... but then after playing on it for 30m I tune it up a skosh ... after that it's usually OK for an entire gig. I guess that means it shrinks a bit over night, and then stretches back out when I play.

It's never been trouble for me ... you hear from some gut users about their strings never stabilizing enough to play thru a gig. Are they speaking of the Olive-G or naked gut?

Yes, I would absolutely buy another Olive-G when this one gives up. I keep an Evah Pirazzi G string in my bag for a back-up in case the Olive-G breaks.
 
[...]Unstable tuning issues unfortunately had me ditch it. Too many temp extremes up here for me to make it work.

Here in Denver the temperature swings a bit too, but my bass is not out in the cold or the blazing sun and heat, and neither is yours I'm guessing. Maybe it's the RH swings in Minneapolis and not the temperature? Denver humidity is dry with a yearly average RH of 54%, but it dips to 15% and peaks up in the 70's%.
 
Getting a little cold feet on these strings I must say. I play a few outside gigs, not often but they happen and I'm not sure how these will hold up. I'm in new orleans and I haven't had trouble with any of my other strings needing tuning. I don't even need to tune them once I get to the gig (across the board with spirocores, evahs and innovation strings). Should I be worried. I'm thinking to give it a month with them and if I can't make it work they'll be back on the classifieds :banghead:
 
Inhale through the nose -- exhale slowly through the mouth -- relax man ... you're gonna love the Olive G-string!

[edit] it's been so long since I put my Olive-G on that I cannot remember ... but allow a few days for the string to stabilize. I would not put on a new gut string (or obligato for that matter) less than a week prior to your next gig.

Yes, my spiros and evahs only need to be tuned up once (usually) at the beginning of a gig as well. I always check my tuning halfway through the first set, and then again before every set (doesn't everybody?). Would you call this "unstable tuning"?? Heck, I occasionally hit my head on my tuning machines and knock a string out of tune. Have you ever played in a bluegrass band with a banjo? Don't worry about it ... it'll be fine. Tuning awareness is part of the game.

[edit] Spiros, and other all-metal strings, are the only strings that have ever slammed up into tune on my bass. All others, synthetic core and gut, take some time to stabilize. I usually play slap style on new strings which hastens the process initially.
 
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