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"On my bathroom scale"

#221
Bob Clayton said:
I didn't read the previous 9 pages, but this seems like a very silly thing to be up in arms about. I don't think anyone expects precise measurements when using a bathroom scale. Mine, for instance, goes in 0.2 lb increments. So whenever I tell people the weight using bathroom scale, it's understood that it's a ballpark. I suppose if that .5 lb or so margin of error costs me a sale, oh well.

OP if $10.99 for that fishing scale isn't a big deal for you, I'll PM you my address and you can send it to me. Don't presume that just because people have instruments they can afford to buy better scales. The fact that they don't have extra money may be the reason they're selling in the first place.
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PM your address and I’ll send you one and include a cross if you need one of those too.

Putting a dollar amount to how much weight matters, if it does.
 
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#222
Bob Clayton said:
I didn't read the previous 9 pages, but this seems like a very silly thing to be up in arms about. I don't think anyone expects precise measurements when using a bathroom scale. Mine, for instance, goes in 0.2 lb increments. So whenever I tell people the weight using bathroom scale, it's understood that it's a ballpark. I suppose if that .5 lb or so margin of error costs me a sale, oh well.

OP if $10.99 for that fishing scale isn't a big deal for you, I'll PM you my address and you can send it to me. Don't presume that just because people have instruments they can afford to buy better scales. The fact that they don't have extra money may be the reason they're selling in the first place.
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You'd think most musicians would have a scale that can measure at least in quarter of an ounce increments and just keep it next to the snack sized zip-lok bags.:beaver:
 
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#223
MultiScaleMale said:
Ok, in about the time it took to write one sentence about how unreasonable I am, you could have ordered a digital fish or luggage scale that would provide a very accurate measurement. I’m not purchasing cheap instruments. My purchases are usually $2k and up. I really don’t think an accurate weight is asking too much when it’s so easy to do.
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You're free to ask and make decisions based on that. No where did I claim otherwise. Just like nowhere is it written that I have to get out of my seat and spend money to answer your personal needs out of a bass guitar. If I listed it with what information I had and you didn't like the listing, you're free to move on, which is acceptable.

It seems to me like you prefer a higher standard than bathroom scale weights and I mean.. there are options to accommodate that. And retailers who might be willing to jump through more hoops than your average joe.
 
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Fun Size Nick said:
Urinating into the wind there mate. Metric is mathematically much simpler and they'll probably adopt it eventually, but it won't be through individuals changing their usage. When you're surrounded by certain kinds of units, you use them in order to function in that place. Even when I drive in the UK now, I think in miles for speed & distance because it's easier to just use what's signposted, even though the speedometer has both mph & km/h displayed.
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I'm generally an English measurement person, but in the kitchen give me measurements in grams. Whenever I get a recipe that measures in oz., I find it a bit annoying. I recently had to buy a new remote for our split AC unit...and it only does C not F...and I actually have to look up what I'm setting it for. :bag:
 
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#225
Instead of bitching about a seller who may be limited in what device they can report a weight from, I suggest purchasing your instruments from sources that own a measuring device that meets your requirements. Seems like it will be less of a headache for you. :thumbsup:
 
#226
Matty Koff said:
You're free to ask and make decisions based on that. No where did I claim otherwise. Just like nowhere is it written that I have to get out of my seat and spend money to answer your personal needs out of a bass guitar. If I listed it with what information I had and you didn't like the listing, you're free to move on, which is acceptable.
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But you have sold nothing on TB. You’re hypothetically getting upset over hypothetically maybe selling something. My point is that if you don’t have an accurate weight, don’t list a weight. If the bass is listed at $1500 and I send $1400, is that close enough?
 
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#227
MultiScaleMale said:
But you have sold nothing on TB. You’re hypothetically getting upset over hypothetically maybe selling something. My point is that if you don’t have an accurate weight, don’t list a weight. If the bass is listed at $1500 and I send $1400, is that close enough?
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I'm upset? I'm not posting on the internet about being unhappy with my purchase. And again..my point is.. if we didn't list a weight we'd get 1500 emails asking about weight. Why not answer that to the best of your ability? Maybe add a YMMV tag.

And again.. if it's not exact enough for your tastes you're free to not buy it.
 
#228
Matty Koff said:
I'm upset? I'm not posting on the internet about being unhappy with my purchase. And again..my point is.. if we didn't list a weight we'd get 1500 emails asking about weight. Why not answer that to the best of your ability? Maybe add a YMMV tag.

And again.. if it's not exact enough for your tastes you're free to not buy it.
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And again, you’ve not listed anything on TB, ever. Have you sold on other platforms?
 
#229
MultiScaleMale said:
And again, you’ve not listed anything on TB, ever. Have you sold on other platforms?
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It's enough of a hassle selling locally, much less sorting through who's going to ship a bass back to me because it was too heavy for them. Do I need experience selling on TB to have an opinion on the matter? Nope. Do you have to like my answer? Nope.

but you can vent. not going to accomplish much of anything. But you can vent.
 
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Matty Koff said:
It's enough of a hassle selling locally, much less sorting through who's going to ship a bass back to me because it was too heavy for them. Do I need experience selling on TB to have an opinion on the matter? Nope. Do you have to like my answer? Nope.

but you can vent. not going to accomplish much of anything. But you can vent.
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If you want to interpret this as venting, feel free.
 
#234
Passinwind said:
Nah, I just go down the street to Margie's Pot Shop to weigh my basses. ;)
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Sadly, not a bass weighing option here in NYS yet. The law for this form of bass weight measurement is passed but they haven't hashed out any of the rules yet. So until then, its the kitchen scale, and my own two (green) thumbs.
 
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Well, seems to have taken the typical TB thread arc, general discussion and then attack the OP overnight. So, let me summarize in bullet point fashion...

1) Weight is an important issue to people whether it be for medical issues, comfort or just general preferences.
2) Lighter instruments command a bit of a premium and will sell faster
3) A listed specification should be accurate
4) Digital fish scales are designed to be accurate in the range of weights we find in basses and cost about a third of the price of a pack of strings
5) My point is that if you list a spec, make it an accurate spec. I know that most people don't have a scientific background and if a bathroom scale says 8.2 lbs, the digits look accurate, but they're not. Bathroom scales are designed for 100-200 lbs.
6) Are buyers unreasonable in being less than happy if an instrument ends up being half a pound heavier when it arrives? I don't think so. If there were a chunk of finish chipped out by the input jack that wasn't shown, that would be ok to be upset about even though 99% of the finish is fine.
7) I'm expecting this level of precision for a $2000+ purchase, not a Squier bass. Besides, you're going to find that shipping is going to take away most of what you sold the Squier for.

If you list a spec, you have a responsibility to provide an accurate spec. And it's cheap and easy to do so.
 
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#240
Bob_Ross said:
Because for some folks, that's the only scale they own.

(And some of us don't even own one of those! Anyone asks me "What does your bass weigh?" Imma have to just shrug my shoulders.)
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This, only scale I own. Weigh myself without the bass, then while holding the bass.

And I say "bathroom scale" just so the buyer would know if it's approx based on that measurement. But I haven't sold one in years so maybe our new bathroom scale would be more accurate. No plan to sell right now so just an opinion on past experience.
 

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