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On stage set up question

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mtizzle

Mar 23, 2008
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#1
Man, it's been forever since I've posted here - school and music have been keeping me busy... Not that I was too involved with the community before my long break, but I hope everyone's doing well and that many notes are being played.

Anyway, on to the question:

I'm looking to beef up my on stage set up now that I have to compete with two guitars. My Peavey set up does well, but it's a little lacking, and I'm not really getting the warm sound I want out of it. What I'm thinking of doing is buying a Fender TV 2x10 and micing that through the PA, but then using the line out on the back to connect the 2x10 to my Peavey 4x10, and using the 4x10 as a stage monitor. I'm going to stack the 4x10 on top of a 1x15 that I don't use to get the Peavey at ear level, and leave the Fender off to the side. Am I onto something, or does this sound like a bad idea?

Just some background, my band is somewhat like the Allman Brothers and Led Zeppelin combined, but with not near as much talent as those two bands :p

Thanks in advance for the input. Also, sorry if this should have gone into Live Sound or something.
 
#2
Well, it seems to me you could try just plugging your head into both the 4x10 and the 1x15 and mic the 4x10 into the PA.

The 15 will warm up your tone and give you a little more stage volume. That's what you're after, right?
 
#4
It does seem like you are complicating the system for minimal gain. We don't know what your previous amp is and that may lead us to other, simpler suggestions. That said, the TV 210 is very nice.

Also, you cannot use a line out to power a cabinet without another poweramp/head. You would need an external speaker out.
 
#5
Peavey MAX 700 head
Peavey 410 TSX cab - Wattage? Ohm Value?

Peavey Max 700
700 Watts at 2 Ohms
475 Watts at 4 Ohms
275 Watts at 8 Ohms

If the 410 is 8 ohms, I can see why your setup is lacking a little. 275 watts may not be enough headroom for you. What does your EQ/tone settings look like on the bass and the head?

In this situation, you might want to get a better bass head and your 410 might just be fine. If the cab is for just stage monitoring, a 410 with enough wattage should kick butt. As long as you have a PA system to plug into...
 
#6
The 15 is an old GK bratpack 250. It isn't very good for what I need, but it's a perfect stand for my 4x10...

A new head is a possibility, but I fell in love with the tone of the Fender TV, and I'd really like that to be a part of my sound. I'm straight up dumb when in comes to amps - is there any way for me to run the Peavey head and the Fender at the same time on the same bass?

I'm going to my practice space tonight, so I'll write down my EQ settings. I generally keep the bass at 3/4ths, the mids a little past flat, and the treble at flat. It sounds good in the practice room, but it's a little lacking on stage.
 
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mtizzle said:
I'm going to stack the 4x10 on top of a 1x15 that I don't use to get the Peavey at ear level, and leave the Fender off to the side.
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That can result in multi-path cancellation issues, resulting in less volume on stage instead of more. If you like what the Fender sounds like get two, stack them vertically, sell the rest to help pay for them.
 
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bassmanrocke said:
It does seem like you are complicating the system for minimal gain. We don't know what your previous amp is and that may lead us to other, simpler suggestions. That said, the TV 210 is very nice.

Also, you cannot use a line out to power a cabinet without another poweramp/head. You would need an external speaker out.
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which the tv series of combos doesn't have. great combo done in by its lack of expandability.
 
#10
IvanMike said:
bill speaks right - also, consider sending a direct signal to the PA (pre or post eq) rather than putting a mic on the cab...
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i'm a hardcore speaker mic'er. if you have a good mic to do it with, it's a great way of getting your signal to the pa. if you don't (and most folks don't), then yeah, i'd say di, too.

let me also add that jury rigging a series of unmatched gear together indiscriminately never works as well as using one solid rig. i know times are tough and money's tight, but if you're looking for serious performance, it's ultimately best to do it right.
 

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