Opinions needed re Shure wireless IEM system

[Bassheart365]

Hey everyone -

So right now my 6-piece funk band is using a Beringer XR16 tablet mixer, 2 monitors, and 2 Turbosound inspire 2000 array/sub mains (when we do our own sound).

I'm looking to purchase a wireless IEM system. I'm currently considering the Shure PSM300 for the transmitter and the Shure PSR receivers, which can "mix" to the extend that the two channel volumes can be individually adjusted.

(I'm leaning towards Shure because I already have a Shure GLX-D wireless system for my bass, which I love.)

Any opinions on this or similar set-ups? I have also read alot of posts re the Soundcraft Ui16 digital mixer. Any advantages of using this over the Berninger XR16 for a wireless IEM setup?

Thanks in advance for your valued input....

 

[BurningSkies]

Hey everyone -

So right now my 6-piece funk band is using a Beringer XR16 tablet mixer, 2 monitors, and 2 Turbosound inspire 2000 array/sub mains (when we do our own sound).

I'm looking to purchase a wireless IEM system. I'm currently considering the Shure PSM300 for the transmitter and the Shure PSR receivers, which can "mix" to the extend that the two channel volumes can be individually adjusted.

(I'm leaning towards Shure because I already have a Shure GLX-D wireless system for my bass, which I love.)

Any opinions on this or similar set-ups? I have also read alot of posts re the Soundcraft Ui16 digital mixer. Any advantages of using this over the Berninger XR16 for a wireless IEM setup?

Thanks in advance for your valued input....

The debate with singers in my band is between the PSM300 and the Sennheiser EW300 units. Both seem to be well liked.

We chose the Ui16r for it's dual channel wifi and slick HTML5 mix interface (no app needed)..and the fact that you can connect up to 9 wireless devices to it at any given time. It also has more aux sends and channels. Another bonus is that it does record 24 channel multi-track to USB flash drive really easily.

 

[s0c9]

Nothing "wrong" with the PSM300.. Just make sure you get the correct frequency band for your area...
Use this app and it will show you choices..
Wireless Frequency Finder | Shure Americas

Suppose you live in zip 20277, and want a PSM300. You want J band.

 

[sawzalot]

I've got a psm300 with the P3RA receiver. I really like it. Never tried the p3r but the system I have is great.

Tom

 

[Jon Mush]

We’ve had good success with the PSM 300 too. I think the noise floor is arguably better than the senns.

The only oddity is the lack of XLR on the inputs, but that’s an easy work around.

If you can, spring for the better belt packs. We’ve used ours on the road for years and they’ve been perfectly reliable.

 

[s0c9]

We’ve had good success with the PSM 300 too. I think the noise floor is arguably better than the senns.

The only oddity is the lack of XLR on the inputs, but that’s an easy work around.

If you can, spring for the better belt packs. We’ve used ours on the road for years and they’ve been perfectly reliable.

idk about the noise floor.... having used both and currently on a G3 (yes there IS a perceptible noise floor when muted if there's too much input gain) I have crystal clear audio, and it's basically not noticeable with signal being passed to the xmitter..

 

[musicman7722]

Let me add if you are looking at the Shure because it gives you two channel mixing then I wouldn't let that be the selling point for you. Looking at your mixer (I own an XR18 Rack) you have 4 aux outs. You mentioned running two wedges so that leaves two aux outs left. You can run one of those to whichever make and model unit you buy and then you can do your own private mix of all the channels not just two. So let the quality and budget be your guide. IMHO buds are more important than transmitter in the beginning. Finally many users here will suggest you go with custom buds and ear molds but my exp. shows that is a waste of time and money in the beginning.

 

[s0c9]

IMHO buds are more important than transmitter in the beginning. Finally many users here will suggest you go with custom buds and ear molds but my exp. shows that is a waste of time and money in the beginning.

Agreed... when you start racing you don't begin with F1.. you work your way up to it...

 

[morgansterne]

i bought the carvin em900 system and drummer friend got the psm300. I have tried both his transmitter and receiver with the carvin earbuds and then tried my carvin setup with the shure earbuds (which he never used).
The shure is near double the price but in both cases the difference is quality is immediately noticeable. The shure is much less noisy and glitchy than the carvin.

The only difference I can imagine in making the soundcraft better than the Behringer for IEM purposes is if the soundcraft has more aux outputs. The xr16 only has 4 aux outs, which is pretty slim for a six piece band. You certainly aren't likely to get a stereo IEM mix.

 

[Ethereal Thorn]

For jut abit more cash then the shure psm300 check out the Mipro mi-909 -t/r its full digital

 

[BurningSkies]

i bought the carvin em900 system and drummer friend got the psm300. I have tried both his transmitter and receiver with the carvin earbuds and then tried my carvin setup with the shure earbuds (which he never used).
The shure is near double the price but in both cases the difference is quality is immediately noticeable. The shure is much less noisy and glitchy than the carvin.

The only difference I can imagine in making the soundcraft better than the Behringer for IEM purposes is if the soundcraft has more aux outputs. The xr16 only has 4 aux outs, which is pretty slim for a six piece band. You certainly aren't likely to get a stereo IEM mix.

The Wifi on the SC will sustain 9 or 10 connections. The XR16 cannot. It only does something like 4 or 6 without external wifi.

 

[s0c9]

The Wifi on the SC will sustain 9 or 10 connections. The XR16 cannot. It only does something like 4 or 6 without external wifi.

Yeah.. the XR wifi is known to be weak.. I recommend external wireless/network with ANY of these rack mount units. Beats getting dropped connections..
I have an Invalid Link Removed mounted on top of a standard mic stand. It sits atop one of GC's generic "Invalid Link Removed" and I use TWO foot-long bungee cords (one each threaded across the two "grooves" of the top of the C7) to anchor it across the top of the "circular feet of tablet mount.
Set up for 5Ghz, and with the stand fully extended, it's 6-7 feet up in the air and sits behind the console...

 

[musicman7722]

I use a mac air router self.

 

[musicman7722]

Also I started on a Shure PSM200 and later tried the Carvin mentioned earlier. The Shure was still better then the Carvin and I suspect the PM300 would be even better. I moved on to a Sennheier and never looked back. Yes it was around $1000 but compared to hearing loss and all the stuff I was able to stop carrying like monitor amps, graphics and a wedge it was a bargain.

 

[s0c9]

Also I started on a Shure PSM200 and later tried the Carvin mentioned earlier. The Shure was still better then the Carvin and I suspect the PM300 would be even better. I moved on to a Sennheier and never looked back. Yes it was around $1000 but compared to hearing loss and all the stuff I was able to stop carrying like monitor amps, graphics and a wedge it was a bargain.

Agreed.. pretty much my route - in a different order
Tho' I did get my Senn G3 NIB for $720 shipped
Heck, I spent $600-ish on my Senn D1 + GA4 Rack Kit + 2 * BA30 Li Batteries !!

Worth every single dime IMHO !
BOTH have been absolutely STELLAR.
Sennheiser makes some great gear..

 

[musicman7722]

Buy once, cry once

 

[monkeyland]

I have the psm300 setup with the upgraded receiver. I have also sprung for the rechargeable battery and a half wave antennae for when I need it. The system works great for me. I'd say that you can't go wrong with it or the sennheiser. If you get something else, make sure that it can do stereo, because you will want it eventually.