I realize that SWR cabs are better for cleaner tones, but I've been using two 4x10 Workingman's 4004 cabs with my Orange Bass Terror. I'm getting a decent tone, but am I a moron for not getting different cabs? I like the balance between the dirt of the Orange and the punch of the SWRs, but I feel it gets a bit farty sometimes. I'm also checking out an Ampeg V4 tomorrow - should that go well with my SWR cabs? I really need some input, guys - thanks!! Everybody here has been a lifesaver in the past.
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Orange, Ampeg Heads & SWR Cabs
- Thread starter Ginsly
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better for cleaner tones? first i ever heard that. swr amps are generally pretty clean, but the cabs just put out what you put into it.
If you go used, you can get some good deals on the Orange cabs.
That said, their 15" (which I use and love and highly recommend) is, IIRC, a variation on the TL606 cab, and I'm sure they're not they only company doing one like that.
Ive found that an any healthy dose of volume Oranges especially, and some Ampegs really need 15's to not fart out the cab.. 10's just dont seem to handle the lowest lows that thump out of an Orange... I use mine with a fender 215 and its stellar!
V4s seem to go great with 10s!.. My V4B goes thru a fender 610 or 2 ampeg 410s and just roars!
V4s seem to go great with 10s!.. My V4B goes thru a fender 610 or 2 ampeg 410s and just roars!
Awesome, thanks for the advice! I have a "frankenstein" 15 that I'm gonna try with one of my 4x10s, but I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used Orange cab. I've used my 15 and an SWR 4x10 with my old SWR head, but it farted out pretty easily. Is it generally a bad idea to mix a 15 with a 4x10?
yep, part for the fart reason, part because a 115 is half as loud as a 410, and part because of possible phasing issues.
I love the way my all tube SVT-II pro sounds through my SWR 6x10! The punch of the SWR cabinet with the sludge of the overdriven power tubes make for a killer, heavy tone...at least to my ears. If it sounds good, don't worry about it!
Jimmy, could you explain this a bit further? Wouldn't the 15 just put out the same amount of volume/wattage that's going into it?
nope. this is an oversimplification because there are speaker building techniques that also contribute, but with most bass speakers, the more cone mass you have, the louder the same wattage will be. a 15" has approx half the cone area of a 410, so the 410 will be much louder. not twice as loud, but considerably louder. plus they generally don't handle as much wattage as a 410.
freddels, those are 3 separate reasons why i don't think it's a good idea to mix a 410 and 115. the phasing is unrelated to the farting.
Not quite an Orange/Ampeg>Swr sound, but I love the way my Traynor YBA200 sounds thru my Warwick 411Pro cab. Of course, it sounds great thru my 810E too.
I think the quality of the speaker and the tuning of the enclosure makes more of a difference than the size. I play with Carvin BRX10.2NEO (2x10") cabs and they are tight and punchy and push out my low-B with authority and massive volume with absolutely zero fartiness. I've played through plenty of 15" cabs that fart with much less power and never deliver the low-B well.
