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Organization (in general), born with it, learn it, carrots?

How do you think organization comes about?

  • Y'er born with it or you are doomed

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Patience and practice

    Votes: 7 41.2%

  • Carrot wood fretboards play like buttah

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Total voters
    17
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toowrongfoo

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#1
I'm a terrible person when it comes to organization. I leave stuff out, nothing really has it's place, it's not really a lazy thing as much as I forget about it if it's not in front of me (like bills) but then other things are in front of me and I just ignore them.

For people that are organized, did any of you "learn" to be more organized or is it natural?
 
#7
I had to teach myself.

I went from one extreme to the other and then settled somewhere in the middle.

As a young adult I was truly disorganized. Then I got a job in outside sales. I hated the job and didn't stay with it long. But I'm glad I had it because it forced me to get my crap together.

Not only did I organize my stuff, but I organized my time. I went to the far extreme. I had everything put away and every minute assigned.

Then I realized one day that I had gone too far.

I settled in a bit more relaxed but vowed never to return to my disorganized self.

I highly recommend getting down with a fella by the name of Brian Tracy. His techniques are a bit extreme and dated. But you can pick and choose what you want to adopt.

Get organized to the extreme and then relax a little.
 
#11
toowrongfoo said:
I'm a terrible person when it comes to organization. I leave stuff out, nothing really has it's place, it's not really a lazy thing as much as I forget about it if it's not in front of me (like bills) but then other things are in front of me and I just ignore them.

For people that are organized, did any of you "learn" to be more organized or is it natural?
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toowrongfoo said:
Lolz, but I want to be more organized.

My vanity top, my god, it's a joke. Yet every time I clean it it's back to being wreck in an hour (doh!!!!)
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I'm with you man, my dresser tops look like the inside of my head... piled 3 layers with 3 months worth of semi useful mumbo jumbo until I'm unable to find stuff or stand looking at it any more, then I do an afternoon of finding homes for things. It doesn't take long for the first layer to develop.
 
#13
toowrongfoo said:
Lolz, but I want to be more organized.

My vanity top, my god, it's a joke. Yet every time I clean it it's back to being wreck in an hour (doh!!!!)
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Join the Army (or Marines...or Navy...or any similar outfit)
They'll school you pretty quickly.

I do believe some people are just more naturally inclined to being good at it...but it can be trained to some extent...just like playing bass!
 
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#18
Procrastination is best understood as an emotion-focused coping strategy.

We use task avoidance to escape the negative emotions associated with a task (e.g., frustration, boredom, stress, anxiety).

As colleagues have explained so well before, “we give in to feel good,” prioritizing the management of aversive mood states over our goal pursuit.

When we feel bad in relation to a task at hand, we’re more likely to procrastinate in an effort to feel better.

Of course, this short-term mood repair comes at a cost to our future self.

The thing is, many of us feel bad a lot of the time.

We’re more prone than others to anxiety and depression, as well as negative repetitive thoughts — in the form of worry about the future and rumination about the past. From the perspective of personality psychology, those of us who are like this are high on the trait of neuroticism.

Read more at How Negative Thoughts Relate to Procrastination
 
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#19
Stumbo said:
Procrastination is best understood as an emotion-focused coping strategy.

We use task avoidance to escape the negative emotions associated with a task (e.g., frustration, boredom, stress, anxiety).

As colleagues have explained so well before, “we give in to feel good,” prioritizing the management of aversive mood states over our goal pursuit.

When we feel bad in relation to a task at hand, we’re more likely to procrastinate in an effort to feel better.

Of course, this short-term mood repair comes at a cost to our future self.

The thing is, many of us feel bad a lot of the time.

We’re more prone than others to anxiety and depression, as well as negative repetitive thoughts — in the form of worry about the future and rumination about the past. From the perspective of personality psychology, those of us who are like this are high on the trait of neuroticism.

Read more at How Negative Thoughts Relate to Procrastination
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Good post. I'm not as bad as to employing full time time avoidance, but it describes a few people I'm rather close to, making their lives overall unmanageable.
 
#20
Today I was more "organized" than I usually am. I like the results, but it didn't make me more productive, it made me just want to tidy-up some more.

It's like earning money in some ways, you really want to keep earning it (whether a job or selling used items) where the feeling you get is positive the more you do it.

In the end I just have to be in the mood. It's not because I dread doing it as much as I feel "well, it won't stay that way" or whatever. It occurs to me that it's also a control issue. "You" are the master, not the thing, which I feel is an illusion.

Thanks for the thoughts and some lolz so far, please don't stop!
 

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