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Origin Effects BassRig Ampeg B15 Fliptop recreation

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@Origin_Effects perhaps similar to on the BassRig 64 where there’s a switch to go between cab types, there could be switch on a B15 recreation to choose between the cathode bias and the fixed bias of the 1964 and 1966 versions respectively (like Ampeg did on their “Heritage” version).
 
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Quatschmacher said:
@Origin_Effects perhaps similar to on the BassRig 64 where there’s a switch to go between cab types, there could be switch on a B15 recreation to choose between the cathode bias and the fixed bias of the 1964 and 1966 versions respectively (like Ampeg did on their “Heritage” version).
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I wonder how much additional internal electronics is needed to add a B15 option to the SV.

It would be interesting if they could add it to the SV without needing to put out a third version of the BassRig. I imagine it might not be a profitable endeavor to go through the trouble.
 
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T McClure said:
I wonder how much additional internal electronics is needed to add a B15 option to the SV.

It would be interesting if they could add it to the SV without needing to put out a third version of the BassRig. I imagine it might not be a profitable endeavor to go through the trouble.
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I’d rather they make it separate and make it as good as it can be, no compromises. I think that the SGT-DI suffers a bit in that the SVT side isn’t so well done.
 
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T McClure said:
I wonder how much additional internal electronics is needed to add a B15 option to the SV.

It would be interesting if they could add it to the SV without needing to put out a third version of the BassRig. I imagine it might not be a profitable endeavor to go through the trouble.
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The answer to that is "A lot of additional internal electronics". Making the pedal reconfigure, or switch circuit blocks to become something else requires a good chunk of extra circuitry. Especially with the accuracy we tend to attempt. Making switchable cab sims for it would add a lot of additional internal switching too. Our versions of AIAB pedals are really component intensive, I think the Super Vintage has hear 700 components on the PCB.

We are well aware of peoples desire for a B15, development for products like this is typically a case of 2 years from concept to final production ready design. And even that can slip depending on priorities or what other work needs to be done. We hear you and we love the B15 too.

- Jacob
 
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Origin_Effects said:
The answer to that is "A lot of additional internal electronics". Making the pedal reconfigure, or switch circuit blocks to become something else requires a good chunk of extra circuitry. Especially with the accuracy we tend to attempt. Making switchable cab sims for it would add a lot of additional internal switching too. Our versions of AIAB pedals are really component intensive, I think the Super Vintage has hear 700 components on the PCB.

We are well aware of peoples desire for a B15, development for products like this is typically a case of 2 years from concept to final production ready design. And even that can slip depending on priorities or what other work needs to be done. We hear you and we love the B15 too.

- Jacob
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The SV already is a dense brick of metal. It's heavy enough to use when fending off a coyote attack.
 
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@Origin_Effects,

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We are The world is counting on you.
 
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arepa_funk said:
I would absolutely destroy my credit card to get this if it existed. I've been chasing B15-on-a-pedalboard tones for so long, Broughton, even the Xotic RC gets close, Slampegg, Barber Linden, Venture V3, etc. but the full Origin package would overtake them all imo.
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Wow I hope Origin Effects makes a B15 pedal! In the meantime I am currently chasing that B15 sound. Which of those you mentioned does it best? Have you tried the Ampeg SGT-DI B15 sound? How does it compare?
 
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@LuxuriousMistak

I own an SGT and an OG small tube Slampegg, and they're both really good in their own ways. But given my personal experience and Origin's reputation, I feel like an Origin B15 would be better than both. 🤘

The SGT is almost three times the size, but has a lot more tricks up its sleeve. The Slampegg is a one trick pony, is pretty decent at that one trick, and it does have a tube. (The newer model uses a 12AX7, which you can tube roll if you feel like it.) That said, I'd pick the SGT if I had to pick between the two. I think it actually does do the B15 sound slightly better than the Slampegg despite the tube. Disclaimer: I also have QC confidence issues with Sushi Box pedals to be comfortable with an SB pedal on my main board. Your mileage may vary of course, but I definitely don't have the same confidence issues with the SGT or Origin.

SGT is definitely worth a look until the Origin B15 comes out ;);), since you mentioned the SGT specifically.

Also, Phillip Conrad did a couple videos that will probably help you out quite a bit:
He compared the SGT to the Bassrig Super Vintage and the SGT to his 1969 B15N.

5sg.



 
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fivestringgecko said:
@LuxuriousMistak

I own an SGT and an OG small tube Slampegg, and they're both really good in their own ways. But given my personal experience and Origin's reputation, I feel like an Origin B15 would be better than both. 🤘

The SGT is almost three times the size, but has a lot more tricks up its sleeve. The Slampegg is a one trick pony, is pretty decent at that one trick, and it does have a tube. (The newer model uses a 12AX7, which you can tube roll if you feel like it.) That said, I'd pick the SGT if I had to pick between the two. I think it actually does do the B15 sound slightly better than the Slampegg despite the tube. Disclaimer: I also have QC confidence issues with Sushi Box pedals to be comfortable with an SB pedal on my main board. Your mileage may vary of course, but I definitely don't have the same confidence issues with the SGT or Origin.

SGT is definitely worth a look until the Origin B15 comes out ;);), since you mentioned the SGT specifically.

Also, Phillip Conrad did a couple videos that will probably help you out quite a bit:
He compared the SGT to the Bassrig Super Vintage and the SGT to his 1969 B15N.

5sg.



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Thanks! I saw his videos and was impressed by how the SGT B15 sound compared against the amp. Though I also watched his blind test DI video and it made me have a bit less faith in his videos to help me with buying decisions. So I thought actual users here on TB might be able to help. I am still so conflicted between the Fliptop and Grand slampegg. I don’t want to wait for the Origin B15 and in the meantime, everything is about to get stupid expensive in the U.S. Ugh.

Edit: fixed a word.
 
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LuxuriousMistak said:
Wow I hope Origin Effects makes a B15 pedal! In the meantime I am currently chasing that B15 sound. Which of those you mentioned does it best? Have you tried the Ampeg SGT-DI B15 sound? How does it compare?
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I haven't tried the SGT-DI but I do have a Venture series amp, and it has the same circuit as far as I understand. It's really good, I actually like the B15 tones from it more than the SVT ones.

Of the others, the Fliptop and RC Booster are super close, except the RC doesn't have much if any dirt. I love the Linden for the EQ but it's missing overdrive. I combined it in one enclosure with the ROG Ginger overdrive and it's really great. Not small at all but really great. Especially to kick on dirt on command when needed.
 
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arepa_funk said:
I haven't tried the SGT-DI but I do have a Venture series amp, and it has the same circuit as far as I understand. It's really good, I actually like the B15 tones from it more than the SVT ones.

Of the others, the Fliptop and RC Booster are super close, except the RC doesn't have much if any dirt. I love the Linden for the EQ but it's missing overdrive. I combined it in one enclosure with the ROG Ginger overdrive and it's really great. Not small at all but really great. Especially to kick on dirt on command when needed.
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Thanks for your input. I need to go DI at the moment, though the Venture series would be tempting otherwise. My only gig right now is at a church with a crappy combo amp and I don’t feel like carting my own twice a week. The fliptop is in stock so I bought one. Tired of researching and needed to make a decision. I figure if it’s not for me, I can always sell it.
 
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LuxuriousMistak said:
Thanks for your input. I need to go DI at the moment, though the Venture series would be tempting otherwise. My only gig right now is at a church with a crappy combo amp and I don’t feel like carting my own twice a week. The fliptop is in stock so I bought one. Tired of researching and needed to make a decision. I figure if it’s not for me, I can always sell it.
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I don't think you'll be disappointed. Pair it with a nice DI and you'll be fine. I did that with the Countryman 85 or the Radial Pro and it was great. Share your thoughts when you can please!
 
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arepa_funk said:
I don't think you'll be disappointed. Pair it with a nice DI and you'll be fine. I did that with the Countryman 85 or the Radial Pro and it was great. Share your thoughts when you can please!
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triviani said:
Please share your impressions.
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Will do!

I picked up a finally v3 from sushi box but I’m thinking about sending it back in favor of a cleaner DI. Seriously considering the Grand Slampegg which is Sushi Box’s tube DI modeled after the B15N. Would be so interesting to see how the Slampegg pairs with the Fliptop. Otherwise I might go completely transparent and get a Radial JDI. Noble would be amazing but I am struggling to justify the cost. There are so many other options for DIs that I am a bit overwhelmed.
 
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