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Overkill??

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bassicinstinct

Nov 16, 2004
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#1
According to the Ashdown website, bassist Jack Daley (who was responsible for the stellar work on Joss Stone's "Soul Sessions" album) recently took the following rig on the road with him to do a Lenny Kravitz tour:

12 ABM 8x10 Cabs
4 ABM 2x15 Cabs

These were positioned 8 cabs at each side of the stage. He used 2 2x10 Ashdown Labs Cabs for "personal montoring" ( :confused: :confused: ).

There were 3 ABM 900 rackmount heads on stage but the rig was actually powered by an off stage rack containing 3 Ashdown PM 1000 Power Amps and an Ashdown RPM Preamp.

Not exactly designed for a speedy getaway eh? :D :D :D :D
 
#3
thats a lot of ashdown!

i don't know if thats overkill, he probably doesn't use all of them (but then again maybe he does!) I know that a lot of bands will have a lot of cabs on the stage, but they only use one or two, and the others are in case the one or two aren't working properly. i remember seeing a picture of queen's brian may who had maybe about 12 vox AC30s on stage, but the caption below it said he only used three of them. I also remember at a Styx concert i went to last summer, the bassist had 8 ampeg 810s, and the guitarists had 12 marshalls cabs each(!!) but i really don't think that they were running all of them at once. I imagine running all those cabs would have been a lot louder than they appeared to be!
 
#4
Total Overkill. Why would you need that much? Even in an arena. Seems like someone is overcompensating for a "shortcoming" somewhere else..... :D

At first I thought you were talking about D.D. Verni, bassist for the NY metal band OVERKILL.
 
#7
Maybe the amp companies pay the big name acts to put EMPTY cabs on stage with them. (They would use full cabs, but the roadie unions rebeled) That way, when sucker wannabes in the audience go to the store to buy, they think they NEED eight.
 
#9
ERIC31 said:
At first I thought you were talking about D.D. Verni, bassist for the NY metal band OVERKILL.
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That's what I thought!

And for the record, they're from NJ. :D

Re those cabs, I can sort of understand if you're playing a gigantic stage where you're standing like 30 feet away from your amps you may need the coverage. But I've never played a stage that big so I'm just guessing. What I don't understand is the ratio of 12 10s to 1 15. Why bother with the 15s? And how can he even hear the 2x10s? Whatever...
 
#10
SciFiGuy said:
Maybe the amp companies pay the big name acts to put EMPTY cabs on stage with them. (They would use full cabs, but the roadie unions rebeled) That way, when sucker wannabes in the audience go to the store to buy, they think they NEED eight.
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I've worked as a humper at several shows down through the years were acts have had empty cabinets in the classic wall of marshall 4x12's stage configuration
 
#17
Back in the days of hairspray, my band toured with a bigger regional act. For clubs, they had 6 Marshall 4-12"s on each side. Of course, only 2 were real, 1 was actually a 2-12" bass cab, and the rest were not only empty but totally fake. They made them and cut Marshall logos out of wood. You can't tell from the audience.
There is no way that Lenny Kravitz is letting him actually play through all that. For God's sake, Geddy Lee doesn't even use an amp onstage, just industrial dryers!!!!
 
#18
and on the flipside, I remember reading a Guitar Player (I dont think bass player was around yet) interview with a guy who had just accepted a gig w/Ted Nugent. He said he walked out there without earplugs and almost lost his mind!

So apparently Ted uses real stuff. All the band members had to wear earplugs.

What's the friggin point???
just industrial dryers!!!!
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Those industrial dryers had some decent tone!
 
#20
Eric Moesle said:
They do it simply because it makes the stage look good. Many of them probably aren't even plugged in.

What would look cooler, a wall of speakers lining the back of the stage, or a 2x10 combo with a mike in front of it running through the monitors?
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And besides looking cool, it's a lot less obvious than a big backdrop with the Ashdown/Mashall/whatever logo painted on it. Hmmm...I should start selling big tarps painted to look like cabs.
 

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