• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Oversized round strap buttons (instead of straplocks)

#21
I have installed them on a couple of instruments without issue. I think they're a great solution - cheap, easy, permanent, and requiring no extra thought or effort. I didn't need to drill larger holes, but I think I did need to do that on another instrument I put Schaller buttons on (also without issue)
 
#22
2saddleslab said:
The only time I've had trouble w/ straps disconnecting from basses was w/ strap locks. Never had an issue w/ standard issue strap buttons.
Click to expand...

You're lucky. My experience is the exact opposite: most failures have come from unlocked straps and standard buttons.

I've had issues with various strap locks as well, but that all stopped once I switched to Dunlop Dual Design. I haven't tried all the locks, but these are my favorites and I haven't had an issue in over two decades of steady gigging with them. A nice feature of the Dual Design is that it works reasonably well with an unlocked strap... but I only do that at home, never at the gig. The DDDs can be a bit of a pain to install, but once set I don't have to think about them.


Just to reiterate: haven't tried 'em all, so I'm not saying that DDDs are best overall, but only that they work best for me. Also, they are straplocks and therefore off topic, so my overall point is to recommend some kind of additional protection instead of standard strap buttons.
 
#23
Isaac_James said:
I have installed them on a couple of instruments without issue. I think they're a great solution - cheap, easy, permanent, and requiring no extra thought or effort. I didn't need to drill larger holes, but I think I did need to do that on another instrument I put Schaller buttons on (also without issue)
Click to expand...

Do you remember which ones you got? How did the screw quality seem? (Separately, I've read that Schaller screws can be slightly larger, but also that they use higher quality screws.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Isaac_James
#24
FretRiff said:
Do you remember which ones you got? How did the screw quality seem? (Separately, I've https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StrapPinOBC--gotoh-ep-b3-guitar-strap-pins-black that Schaller screws can be slightly larger, but also that they use higher quality screws.)
Click to expand...
I ordered these from Amazon, but they're now showing as unavailable there. Sweetwater has them though and they're pretty cheap!

Screw quality seemed fine, they went in easily with a little wax on the threads and I haven't had to tighten them.

read
 
  • Like
Reactions: FretRiff
#25
My old Jackson Soloist had huge strap buttons. It works well if you put the strap on once and leave it. I ended up using them in conjunction with the gasket-style strap locks.
 
#27
Ernie Ball buttons are larger than normal ones. I have some of the Ibanez winged ones but never installed them.
Used schaller for over 20 years, they have never failed me.
When I was younger the large fender washers were popular but you had to leave the strap on the bass.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FretRiff
#29
I've used oversized buttons, and they didn't provide a solution for me. A few times the instrument slipped, and If I can't depend on something 100% of the time I can't depend on it.

For a couple of years I've been running the beer washer on the front mount (which is never removed) and a Rok-Lok on the rear. That way I can get the instrument off quickly but know it's well secured

Rok-Lok | guitar strap lock

Rok-Lok universal quick change guitar strap lock is the first truly universal guitar strap lock system that fits every type of guitar strap and works with the original hardware of most major guitar brands. Rok lok installs in seconds and requires no tools, drilling, or swapping out parts...
www.theroklok.com www.theroklok.com
 
#30
Strap comes off every time I put it in the case or now my Mono M80. I wanted to like the rubber washer instead of strap locks, but taking them on and off is too much hassle. Dunlops are on all my basses, and in a pinch the strap buttons are pretty large, I'd trust them more than what came on the basses. Had my basses split for some reason between Schaller and Dunlop but a Schaller failure had me switch the rest, Dunlop is a better design.
 
#31
Precision string trees hold the strap on. I'm the only player of this bass, so I don't need an adjustable strap.
 

Attachments

  • 100_0319.JPG
    100_0319.JPG
    1.2 MB · Views: 25
  • Like
Reactions: Akami and eeyorebass
#33
FretRiff said:
Has anyone replaced their strap buttons with oversized circular strap buttons to use instead of straplocks? If so were there any problems using the included screws - screwing them in, or the quality of the screws?

I recently watched this Warmouth video on the top choices for straplocks and I was surprised that the Warmouth solution wasn't the top choice - the two top options given were Schaller S and round (not oval) oversized buttons.

Click to expand...


the endpin on my larrivee dreadnought is very similar to the oversized button that warmoth sells.

an endpin is different than a strap button (it's not screwed in it's more like tapered peg that is pressure fit) and it's been a PITA to be honest.

mine might be a bit different than the warmoth product but it looks very familiar, it has the same mushroomy profile on the top part but the bobbin part is peculiarly fat on the larrivee so I had to buy a special strap with a hole that could accommodate the girth.

and then once I got that strap it refused to actually sit down in the bobbin, the leather was too thick. I had to call larrivee and they told me yeah get a knife and work it in there it needs to break in. ?!

anyways i'm still breaking in the stupid strap. it seems like it will work out fine but I am less than enthusiastic about it.

hopefully the warmoth product doesn't have the same fat bobbin. dunno about the screws sorry
 
  • Like
Reactions: FretRiff
#40
After seeing Warmoth's video, I switched with some of my newest instruments. So now I have a mix of Dunlop strap locks and oversized buttons. I think I trust the Dunlops more (they've been flawless for me for 20+ years) but the oversize buttons with new straps have also been just fine.
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back