American Professional II
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They were made alongside the early '62 reissues. Very similar (identical?) dimensions.The Precision Elite I and II from the early eighties have the thinnest necks I ever played.
Also what the original Labella Olintos were based on. More recent, not so much.Which is what the Lull is based on.
I did wonder about Lakland. 1.75 would be fine if it were a shallow neck.USA Lakland 44-64 with the 1.75” nut width has the widest/thinnest P neck I’ve encountered.
Bwahah yus! I love this thing.Sounds like my ratty 62. Wide side to side but very thin front to backI love that thing
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don’t forget sandblasted!Original run China Squier Classic Vibe 60’s Precision . This is why I keep buying them.
Fender American Specials with that grease bucket circuits. I believe they came in White, Black, Red, and satin Honey Burst.
The custom shop 59 P bass has that neck and some of the early 60's basses also.These dimensions are typically not listed, and it's hard to parse through all the posts and get a clear answer.
What say you, which P basses have necks that have a shallow neck profile front to back? C or D shaped, or otherwise.
thanks!
mm = cmI did some measurements on my Elite's from the 80's:
Elite I (rosewood fretboard)
First fret: 2.075mm = 0.817 inch
12th fret: 2.295mm = 0.904 inch
Elite II (maple fretboard)
First fret: 2.075mm = 0.817 inch
12th fret: 2.315mm = 0.911 inch
My 69 P is as well, that one and the 66 mustang I had are/were just awesome feeling necks. I had a couple of late 70s fenders where they had that deep U feel, totally different from the 60s basses. I think the change was in the early 70s? The modern stuff often feels like a compromise between the two to me. Haven’t tried many modern MIJ basses.My early '68 Fender P is pretty thin front to back. I have a 2023 Fender japan Heritage 60s p-bass that is nearly the same.
I had a Fender Ultra with 'D' shaped neck multi radius and 1.625 nut: was most comfortable and playable neck I ever played
The thin/wide combo allowed my thump to be closer to fretboard which allowed much easier to stretch fretting hand fingers
I did some measurements on my Elite's from the 80's:
Elite I (rosewood fretboard)
First fret: 2.075mm = 0.817 inch
12th fret: 2.295mm = 0.904 inch
Elite II (maple fretboard)
First fret: 2.075mm = 0.817 inch
12th fret: 2.315mm = 0.911 inch
My Vintera II 60s P bass has the thinnest neck I've ever seen, front to back. At the 1st fret I measured it at 19mm/0.75" at its thickest but my measurement was wonky so maybe it's closer to 20mm/0.79", which is a spec I read somewhere. It tapers out to a full inch at the 12th fret.
This is a 7.25" radius neck so there's a considerable difference in thickness between the edges and the center of the neck.
AFAIK this is somewhat period correct, though there was quite a bit of variation back in the day since necks were finished by hand, but I see many vintage P basses from the early 60s that have a tad more depth at the 1st fret.
What makes a neck feel thin, besides the actual depth, is the profile. This bass has a pronounced C shape with very shallow shoulders. Honestly it doesn't support the hand enough for my tastes, especially since it's 1.75" wide. It's a bit like holding a tile
Contrast that with my MIJ and its oval profile. The nut width is 1.65" and at the 1st fret it's about 21mm thick with a flat back but the shoulders bulge outwards - it feels like the neck is wider than the fretboard - so it feels chunkier than it is.