P Bass what am I missing

[Tanner5382]

You are misrepresenting what I have said. I gave my OPINION about Ps, and never said anyone else should own them or insulted people who don't.

That's why I kept saying "many p bass players", not Showdown.

It's not like I ever insulted anybody FOR having one either.

 

[Showdown]

That's why I kept saying "many p bass players", not Showdown.

I'm not arguing with you. Have a nice day.

 

[Tanner5382]

I'm not arguing with you. Have a nice day.

I'd consider it a conversation, not an argument. But you have a nice day as well.

 

[shawn1288]

I love TB!! Where else can I find the decay of intelligent debate other than Facebook?
My P sounds better than my J. Period. End of discussion. If you don't agree you're a big poo-poo head and your mother dresses you funny.

It's okay that I read that entire message in floyd pepper's voice? Should I read all TB posts in floyd's voice?

 

[Watchootognbout]

Who cares? The point is you can play whatever you want with a Pbass. There are videos of the youngest and hottest fusion band - Snarky Puppy, killing with a Pbass. Another guy who uses one at times is Joe Dart from Vulfpeck. These are the young, modern up and comers. You are listing the older, established guys who were huge in the 90's when ERB and active tone in fusion was almost a must.

Here is a thread on a guy who kills it on a P and plays fusion - Marcello Giuliani - Bassist for Erik Truffaz He even has the nerve to use Flats.

You can play anything you want on any bass. If you don't like the sound that's fine, but plenty of guys are using them. Even if they weren't, it would not matter to me since I make my own sound without worrying about what others are doing.

Vulfpeck isn't Fusion.
Vulfpeck
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vulfpeck

Vulfpeck performing in New York City in 2013
Background information
Origin Ann Arbor, Michigan, U.S.
Genres Funk
Years active 2011–present
Marcello Giuliani - Bassist for Erik Truffaz Vulf Records
Website vulfpeck.com

Members Jack Stratton
Theo Katzman
Woody Goss
Joe Dart
Vulfpeck is an American funk group founded in 2011.

Nice Lakland.

 

[username1]

I have both a jazz and a precision. I find the tone a little sweeter and wider on the jazz but I find the precision has so much more punch and balls. They both sound great but just different.

 

[AngelCrusher]

Vulfpeck isn't Fusion.
Vulfpeck
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vulfpeck

Vulfpeck performing in New York City in 2013
Background information
Origin Ann Arbor, Michigan, U.S.
Genres Funk
Years active 2011–present
Invalid Link Removed Vulf Records
Website vulfpeck.com

Members Jack Stratton
Theo Katzman
Woody Goss
Joe Dart
Vulfpeck is an American funk group founded in 2011.




View attachment 937497 Nice Lakland.

You are arguing semantics now if you somehow think the Lakland Glaub is not a Pbass.

 

[Double E]

OK so I went a little off the deep end earlier in this thread arguing the point that P basses are versatile enough for any genre.

I had to do a little reflection understand why the opposing argument irritated me so…

Here it is.

It's not because I am a Fender fan boy or a P bass zealot.

It's because of the notion that somehow jazz fusion players hold the gold standard in versatility for their instruments. This is simply not true.

A jazzer does not rely on the versatility of his instrument any more then a metal player or an average dude in a weekend warrior cover band.

Frankly... I still believe that if you take a poll of real world jazz ensembles around the world, not just famous players in the spotlight, you will still find more P basses than you would expect.

 

[Ant Illington]

Stumbled onto this and thought of you, OP:

 

[AngelCrusher]

OK so I went a little off the deep end earlier in this thread arguing the point that P basses are versatile enough for any genre.

I had to do a little reflection understand why the opposing argument irritated me so…

Here it is.

It's not because I am a Fender fan boy or a P bass zealot.

It's because of the notion that somehow jazz fusion players hold the gold standard in versatility for their instruments. This is simply not true.

A jazzer does not rely on the versatility of his instrument any more then a metal player or an average dude in a weekend warrior cover band.

Frankly... I still believe that if you take a poll of real world jazz ensembles around the world, not just famous players in the spotlight, you will still find more P basses than you would expect.

Agree. I had hot shot fusion ERBs for years as a kid learning, because that's what I wanted to play. But I also had a Pbass and when I started recording in my teens I was always asked to use that. It bugged me, but I started realizing that the modern, hi fi fusion tone I loved so much only sat well in really open mixes and was not that versatile for session and sideman work.

Years and years later, and owning more modern ERBs, I started to realize I was totally over that sound anyway. I just prefer the sound of the Pbass or passive J and I actually play fusion now. It's just funny to read people who think you can't do something with a certain bass because it's not as commonly used in a genre. That is just limited thinking. You can do about anything you want if you have the talent and drive. I just personally find a lot more flexibility tonally with a Pbass and pedals. I also have a Moollon 5 string J as well. A user here came up in the fusion scene playing a fretless P that Jaco sat in with and played. But hey, that was the 70's so it doesn't count..lol. Sometimes on the internet there are people you just have to ignore, so I'll take my own advice.

 

[alack]

I find personally, there is a shift regarding my approach when using a P. When playing a Jazz style bass I almost feel this pressure to "do more." Perhaps its the towering influence that players like Jaco and Marcus have had. I think its also a product of the clear voice of the J. Its as if the J's tone (or range of tones) and the achievements of historic J players put this subliminal voice in my head saying, "Com'on slacker! Step up and do something impressive." Where as the P's voice and the contributions of players like Dunn and Porter lead to a reassuring voice that says, "Relax, get back there with the drummer and keep it simple." For me its almost like an angel and a devil on each shoulder. In my mind the P is the angel.

 

[JesseVMT]

For me its almost like an angel and a devil on each shoulder. In my mind the P is the angel.

Amen.

 

[Bassheart365]

About a year ago, after playing roundwound strings exclusively for almost 40 years, I tried a set of La Bella Deep Talking flatwounds. It's amazing how sweet and P-bass-like a "hifi" bass can sound with flats...

 

[Arthur U. Poon]

I have both a jazz and a precision. I find the tone a little sweeter and wider on the jazz but I find the precision has so much more punch and balls. They both sound great but just different.

I gigged for quite a few years with a Jazz Bass and a Precision Bass on hand. It was fun to switch back and forth, depending on the song, and to have so many classic bass sounds available!

To top of off, the Guitar Player I played with had a Strat, a Tele, and a Les Paul on hand. He was also pretty OCD about using the "correct" sound for the songs we played.

It was a very cool band indeed.

 

[Mr_O'B]

Sorry you were insulted. I have owned a similar number of basses with a similar number of them being P basses. I too have a list. In fact, I own a Fender P currently as well as another P style bass. It doesn't bother me that you like P basses, and that is a common argument I run in to with P bass players. Quite the contrary, it seems to bother you and P bass players that I, along with some others, am not crazy about them. Many P Bass players feel the need to tell others that they should just "get a P" or "get a real bass" or something along those lines. I don't see this with any other bass. "A P is all you need." Well, it's definitely not all I need. If it works for you, that's great. I've gigged one many times, and only about two of those times did I use it the whole show. That also goes for jamming with people in a casual setting, not live. Don't claim others are insulting P basses just because they don't agree with you or worship them. In reality, the P bass players are the ones actually telling everybody they are wrong, not the other way around.

Lastly, I am totally convinced that many people do in fact buy P basses because of the "lifestyle product" reason. I'm not saying you did, though.

Tanner5382 it's TB, so continue to voice your opinion.
I enjoy your input and find your posts insightful!

 

[Tanner5382]

Tanner5382 it's TB, so continue to voice your opinion.
I enjoy your input and find your posts insightful!

Thank you, I appreciate that! I'm glad someone does! I'm usually somewhat of a black sheep around here. I will certainly continue to post.

 

[Mr_O'B]

Thank you, I appreciate that! I'm glad someone does! I'm usually somewhat of a black sheep around here. I will certainly continue to post.

I heard a guy get his sound out of a $549 Eastwood bass a few months ago. I had never heard of Eastwood basses. Based on what I was hearing, I assumed that the guy's Eastwood bass would be pricey. Boy was I wrong!

That was a good example of the world revolving around more than P & J basses!

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Another runaway thread with absolutely no responses from the OP.

 

[bobyoung53]

Ah, so that's why my P bass has been leaking oil.

"

You must have an AMF P bass.

 

[bachplay6]

You can always buy a PJ...Fender currently makes passive and active versions, two for below $1,000.
Or maybe you should simply try out one of these. I did, and I knew I couldn't walk out of the store without it.

For years I've heard the Fender and Music Man people singing the praises of the P bass and the Stingray and they definitely know what they're talking about, but for years I've also heard this: "Leo got it right the third time!" and now I know exactly what they mean.
You simply can't go wrong with the L-2000, it's one of the most versatile basses made.
Anyone who says you can't get a great professional bass for under $1,000 very simply doesn't know what it's all about.

I do love G and L. I don't have any basses but have two guitars. They seem to have more attention to the details and quality control when built.