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P? J? Who cares?!

#122
Out of all the debates and images regarding Jazz and Precision basses I have read, I was able to come to the conclusion I prefer the Jazz bass. I learn a lot from debates..... now the useless arguing well that's a whole different ball of wax.
 
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#123
NKBassman said:
I’ve been seeing a lot of threads on this “debate” coming up lately, more frequently than normal.

I’ve never understood why this is something that needs to be "debated", as if there is only one "right" answer. Why is it a question that needs an answer at all? If you want to play a P, play a P. If you like Jazz basses better, great! Music Man? Rickenbacker? Alembic? Active or passive? Rounds or flats? What you choose to play shouldn’t matter to anyone but you.

Your choices are your own, and it truly doesn’t matter what Talkbass or anywhere or anyone else has to say. If you like the noise you’re making, then carry on and send anyone else packing along with their opinions. There is no debate to be had, an no consensus to be reached. This isn't some bass guitar Thunderdome where two models enter, and one model leaves.

The only answer I’ll accept to J vs. P is “both!”. :p

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(Disclaimer: What follows is not directed at you or anyone in particular. I'm speaking in general.)

No, just no. Asking questions like P vs J is the path to learning and understanding. The discussion broadens your view and can help you see a perspective that you might not have considered before. I don't think the intent of the opinions is to make anyone confirm to anything. The non-conformist attitude of "I don't care what anyone says, I'm going to ____" is counter productive. It both pushes people away and shuts down informative discussion.

Obviously you get to do what you want. That's not the point. So with that context, let's have a good discussion of the pros/cons of anything bass related.

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darwin-bass said:
(Disclaimer: What follows is not directed at you or anyone in particular. I'm speaking in general.)

No, just no. Asking questions like P vs J is the path to learning and understanding. The discussion broadens your view and can help you see a perspective that you might not have considered before. I don't think the intent of the opinions is to make anyone confirm to anything. The non-conformist attitude of "I don't care what anyone says, I'm going to ____" is counter productive. It both pushes people away and shuts down informative discussion.

Obviously you get to do what you want. That's not the point. So with that context, let's have a good discussion of the pros/cons of anything bass related.

/rant
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I'm all for discussion, learning, promoting knowledge and sharing subjective experiences to anyone who has questions to ask. What irks me are threads that "try to get to the bottom of the issue once and for all" as if there's going to be one "winner" at the end of the day.

I prefer P basses. If anyone wants to know why, I'll tell them. But I'm not going to sit here and say that P Basses are "better" than Jazz basses because _____. I have a similar pet peeve with people who will say "that band sucks" instead of "I don't like that band". There's a difference.
 
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what about Dual P pickup basses?

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(5083) The most recorded bass in music history? Yep. Probably. (Bass Tales Ep.9) - YouTube
 
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NKBassman said:
I'm all for discussion, learning, promoting knowledge and sharing subjective experiences to anyone who has questions to ask. What irks me are threads that "try to get to the bottom of the issue once and for all" as if there's going to be one "winner" at the end of the day.

I prefer P basses. If anyone wants to know why, I'll tell them. But I'm not going to sit here and say that P Basses are "better" than Jazz basses because _____. I have a similar pet peeve with people who will say "that band sucks" instead of "I don't like that band". There's a difference.
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Yes, just Yes! I agree 100%.
 
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NKBassman said:
I’ve been seeing a lot of threads on this “debate” coming up lately, more frequently than normal.

I’ve never understood why this is something that needs to be "debated", as if there is only one "right" answer. Why is it a question that needs an answer at all? If you want to play a P, play a P. If you like Jazz basses better, great! Music Man? Rickenbacker? Alembic? Active or passive? Rounds or flats? What you choose to play shouldn’t matter to anyone but you.

Your choices are your own, and it truly doesn’t matter what Talkbass or anywhere or anyone else has to say. If you like the noise you’re making, then carry on and send anyone else packing along with their opinions. There is no debate to be had, an no consensus to be reached. This isn't some bass guitar Thunderdome where two models enter, and one model leaves.

The only answer I’ll accept to J vs. P is “both!”. :p

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Both indeed. But it's the same age old stuff. Time vs tone. You wanna plug-and-play into your DI, record into a DAW and not waste time with software filters? P. You want to spend time tweaking the sound (and potentially never be satisfied)? J. Any other questions?
 
#136
NKBassman said:
That'll be cool! Should I keep my eyes peeled for the build thread in the LC?
Stereo Outputs too?
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I haven't started a thread yet for that bass. I am building 3 basses ... a 30" scale 10 string SG bass, an active 5 string Fenderbird, and a P bass. I have a lot of necks and bodies, and pickups and bridges and I am doing my Doctor Frankenstein thing with the parts.

10 string bass build | TalkBass.com
 
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#137
MultiScaleMale said:
I don't understand the negativity towards PJ. Maybe they just haven't played a good one yet.
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I think it has to do with not meeting expectations. It's sort of its own thing IMO. I have a great P/J, an American Performer. It did take time to setup for the pickups work well together. I also think the J pickup is designed to add to the P sound. In other words, it's not really a great J on it's own. But I am fine with that. I you expect it to be something that can be a great P and a great J rather than a great bass with some of the qualities of a P and a J, but not exactly either one, you can be happy with it.
 

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