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Pairing a 4x10 with a 2x10?

#21
bongomania said:
I don't get how you went from making perfectly good sense ("try it and just listen attentively for the sound of cones farting out") to going out on such a weak limb ("$1000 that it's not EXACTLY equal"). Honestly.
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Dude, it is what it is. That's why quality control generally works withing a range, not a specific number. Think about it.

To the OP, the 210's speakers will receive damn near exactly double the wattage that the 410's speakers will receive--so go ahead and do it, but listen carefully for the sounds of speakers working too hard. Buzzing, farting, fizzing, flapping, etc. If you hear those, turn down the amp until those sounds stop. Different specific makes/models of speaker cone can take widely different amounts of abuse.
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I believe we agree.

:D

Joe.
 
#23
A two channel amp is always helpful...

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#27
bongomania said:
To the OP, the 210's speakers will receive damn near exactly double the wattage that the 410's speakers will receive.
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Exactly double, not damn near it. If the reason for adding the 210 is to get the maximum possible output this is a fail, because the capacity of the 210 is limiting the system. It will work better than the 410 alone, but it won't work as well as it would if the 210 was twice the impedance of the 410. Having the 210 the same impedance as the 410 also puts higher current draw stress on the amp, which is not a good idea either. There's no gray area here, if you're running a 210 and 410 there is a right and wrong way to do it. Having both the same impedance is the wrong way.
 
#28
billfitzmaurice said:
Exactly double, not damn near it. If the reason for adding the 210 is to get the maximum possible output this is a fail, because the capacity of the 210 is limiting the system. It will work better than the 410 alone, but it won't work as well as it would if the 210 was twice the impedance of the 410. Having the 210 the same impedance as the 410 also puts higher current draw stress on the amp, which is not a good idea either. There's no gray area here, if you're running a 210 and 410 there is a right and wrong way to do it. Having both the same impedance is the wrong way.
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Listen to Bill, he knows what he is talking about.
 
#29
billfitzmaurice said:
Exactly double, not damn near it. If the reason for adding the 210 is to get the maximum possible output this is a fail, because the capacity of the 210 is limiting the system. It will work better than the 410 alone, but it won't work as well as it would if the 210 was twice the impedance of the 410. Having the 210 the same impedance as the 410 also puts higher current draw stress on the amp, which is not a good idea either. There's no gray area here, if you're running a 210 and 410 there is a right and wrong way to do it. Having both the same impedance is the wrong way.
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Bill,

Unfortunately your opinion is based on years of experience in the search of audio perfection. I am not blowing smoke here.

Generally what you have to say is 100% correct. However in cases like this you have to bend a little.

Not everyone can afford the perfect system. Not everyone can afford to go out and buy exactly what they need to do things exactly the right way. In a perfect world this would be ideal but it's not a perfect world.

If someone can safely use the equipment they have to play music, I say do it and to hell with perfection. Maybe along the way they can upgrade their equipment a piece at a time.

Peace.

:D

Joe.
 
#30
Lowtonejoe said:
Bill,

Unfortunately your opinion is based on years of experience in the search of audio perfection. I am not blowing smoke here.

Generally what you have to say is 100% correct. However in cases like this you have to bend a little.

Not everyone can afford the perfect system. Not everyone can afford to go out and buy exactly what they need to do things exactly the right way. In a perfect world this would be ideal but it's not a perfect world.

If someone can safely use the equipment they have to play music, I say do it and to hell with perfection. Maybe along the way they can upgrade their equipment a piece at a time.

Peace.

:D

Joe.
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You're missing the point. Adding a 210 to a Ohm 410 doesnt gain you anything if they have the same impedance, and you have a mono amplifier. You are still limited to what the 210 can do. It doesnt gain you any appreciable volume over using the 410 by itself.
 
#35
Lowtonejoe said:
Bill,

Unfortunately your opinion is based on years of experience in the search of audio perfection. I am not blowing smoke here.

Generally what you have to say is 100% correct. However in cases like this you have to bend a little.

Not everyone can afford the perfect system. Not everyone can afford to go out and buy exactly what they need to do things exactly the right way. In a perfect world this would be ideal but it's not a perfect world.

If someone can safely use the equipment they have to play music, I say do it and to hell with perfection. Maybe along the way they can upgrade their equipment a piece at a time.

Peace.

:D

Joe.
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At least the OP should know what he should be looking for to get the best possible results. If the manufacturer chooses not to make what he needs to get the best possible results, shame on them. 'It isn't what it should be, but it's good enough' may be OK for some. It isn't for me, and I don't think others should have to settle either.
 
#38
For my part I won't be using them with a 2 ohm head. I'll probably start out with two seprate heads, then a 2-channel power/pre system when funds allow. The smaller cabinet will be used for a distortion channel, while running the clean through the bigger cab. Given how Avatar neos are much more expensive than they used to be I might end up with another option there as well.
 

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