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Double Bass Palentino

Holy seagull guacamole, was that recent?
Here's what happened: First student - neck seperated within 2 months of purchase. Repair shop had to screw the neck in. The endpin eventually came out (it started bending, then the wood eventually cracked around it). Bass was junked, student quit playing bass. Second student - Fingeboard fell off. Put back on, but the neck started bowing, action became worse over time, was in the shop at least three times for set up. Student then bought a used bass, junked the Palentino. Third student - top caved in about 8 months after purchase. I didn't see it, but the student told me it was pretty ugly, that it looked like someone took a sledge hammer to it. Student quit, parents didn't want to sink any more money into it. Fourth student - I really advised against this, but the parents saved a little cash buying the bass. Action was horrible, and for some reason the bass smelled (kind of like a sickenly sweet varnish smell). One day the bottom of the bass (at the end pin) literally exploded at some point overnight. The bass looked like someone had tossed an M-80 at the bottom of it. The student ended up buying another bass. The basses went for around $700 each new from the store, plus set up, accessories, etc. For 4 students, the total wasted was at least $2,800, plus 2 students quit playing. As always, YMMV ...
 
This thread needs to last 10 pages. How Ya doin' Nic ? I want You to get as much life out of that Palatino as You can. Keep those low tension nylon strings on there to keep the neck joint in place longer than many palatinos. If it falls apart become Samuria repairman. Remember, keep the pickup for Your next bass. With some luck & TLC maybe that won't be as soon as some of us fear it will.

The Dude abides
 
I would never refuse to teach someone based on the quality of their instrument. Many of my students (all strings, not just bassists) have very poor quality instruments. Some are borderline unplayable.

However, even with the youngish 4th and 5th graders, I always work it into the discussion. The student needs to know when their instrument is limiting them, or when it's unreliable.

Also, as has been noted before, students with uncooperative instruments tend to quit earlier.
 
Thanks. Some people were saying that I should have listened to the previous posts saying how terrible palatinos are. I did take into consideration all of the posts before I went to meet with the guy (which was the first 13) I was well prepared to not buy the bass when i got there, but after inspecting the bass and talking to the guy I determined that it was a fine deal. This guy had been playing this bass for a few years with no problems.
So, just to let you guys know, I listened to all of you comments, but you wern't in my position when buying the bass. I didn't mean to be disrespectful, but the information wasn't particualarly usful besides "Palatinos suck". Like I said before, I can't spend $10,000 on some Austrian upright handmade by 7 blind midgets.

I understand the money issue, but its definitely not impossible. I saved money for 2 years and bought a $5000 axe.
 
So I just had my first lession with an upright bass teacher. He said that I should find some steel strings so that I can bow. So... any suggestions on low tenion steel strings? I was looking at some corelli 360Ms online but I was wondering there are any with lower tension in the 100$ range.
 
I remember (I could look, but life is short) that you said you had SuperNils strings and that you got multiple advice NOT TO PUT HEAVIER strings on. There is a great deal of annecdotal evidence in this thread to support the fragile and tenuous nature of your bass. Are You Crazy (or is it me)?

My current strings are Eurosonic "lights". According to the newbie posts they have higher tension but I wouldn't know because of my lack of experiance.

The strings that I have currently are RIDICULOUSLY thick compared to other upright strings. I know from my past bass guitar experiance that High Gauge = High Tension. This is backed up by a previous post found on the newbie pages that I was instructed to read. So, I think it is resonable to ask if these Corelli strings (which have "low tension") would work for my bass, especially if my teacher (one of which I was recomended I get from the Newbie pages) says I should get steel strings to fit his curiculum.

So, in response to your question, no I am not crazy.
 
Make me an offer, Marcus. Petaluma is a great place to live.

The diameter effects the tension in a given material, Grasshopper, but it's a whole new ball of wax when you change materials. None of the normal bass strings I am aware of are particularly low in tension except the Nils, and certain of the Velvet series. The Velvets cost about as much as your bass! There are at least 4 dozen strings I haven't tried.
 
The palatino basses come with the absolute WORST strings when shipped. Though it's too bad your D string broke, you can buy a whole set for about 20 bucks on ebay. My 304 Christopher also has junk strings, I switched them the day I got it.

I replaced 'em with some D'addario Helicores (Orchestral). When I took off the G and compared it Helicore, I said, "Holy crap, this thing is going to be so much easier to play." And I was right.
 
I would try Pirastro Obligato as strings. They are not to high in tension and not to espensive. They are bowable and not to bad pizzicato.
The material will effect the thickness of a string. Gut strings are usually lower tension and pure guts can have gigantic diameters for the low strings.
I hope you have luck with your bass in the future. I did something similiar when starting cello: I bought the cheapest instrument available, did the setup my self as good as I could and put used strings from ebay on it (strings coming with cheap stringed instruments are just horrible). The total cost was about $180. Then I learned for half a year with a teacher to see, if I would stay with that kind of instrument. After having decided that, I bought a better cello and put the cheap one in storage. Renting a better cello for that time would have been more expensive and now I have a spare one to tinker with (wouldn't dare to that with a good instrument). That cheap cello will never see a luthier, the prices for repairs would be more then its value.
My bass is a chinese laminated, too. But I selected it from several basses and it did cost me about $900 with the factory setup. I didn't want to spend more for an instrument that is hauled around and not to carefully handled, always in danger of falling down or having other accidents. It is very playable and I like it. I have it for 4 years now without any problems.