• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

pandemic pantry - food, getting it, storing it, baking during lockdown

i thought we might want a place to talk about the issues, pitfalls and successes of food, pantry staples and drink during stay-at-home, quarantine and lockdown.
...

Made some bread a couple of weeks ago, but bread flour, in fact any flour, seems to have disappeared from most shops...
20200404_174436.jpg
 
can you find cream at the store? if so, you could make your own butter with a mixer and some salt.

another thought - i've been using buttermilk powder for soda bread, and i just ran across this
https://www.amazon.com/Hoosier-Hill-Farm-Butter-powder/dp/B00DC5ZKQE/

maybe with a little tweaking, this could work in recipes that require butter - it is, after all, real butter. there's also cheddar cheese powder and sour cream powder.
We've been using that brand for breadmaking for years. I can't say enough good things about it.

B.
 
As an Amazon Associate, TalkBass may receive commissions from qualifying purchases made via links on this site.
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
Made some bread a couple of weeks ago, but bread flour, in fact any flour, seems to have disappeared from most shops...
View attachment 3789173

i keep finding it online; usually only for a few minutes at a time.

or you could grind your own. right now, wheat berries are pricy on amazon, but you could pre-order a pail of some kind of wheat from pleasanthillgrain and when it arrives, you could grind some whenever you need it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MJ5150
Made some bread a couple of weeks ago, but bread flour, in fact any flour, seems to have disappeared from most shops...
View attachment 3789173

We're having that issue here too.
Some stores have been out of flour for almost a month now and they have no idea when it's coming back to their shelves.
One of the local grocery stores has a bakery that many people love. Since the production of baked goods has decreased for them, they sell five pounds bags of all purpose flour from their bakery for $5.
That sells out about as fast as they put it out. We happened to be there a couple weeks ago as they were stocking the shelf and all 20-30 bags were gone by the end of that day. We were there early afternoon and grabbed one before it was gone.

-Mike
 
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
I have found that vegetables are noticeably of worse quality, although I can find most anything. For example, I made and canned a bunch of leek soup and had to buy way more celery and leeks than before, because they are smaller of just old and brown spots to cut off. But I'm pretty close to where everything is grown, so maybe that's why veggies and meat are easy to find.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
I've been using olive oil, olive oil spreads (and olive oil with fresh garlic) since my cholesterol started testing a bit high. I'm not missing the butter on most things.

I love me some olive oil. Can't stand olives though. I won't eat anything with olives in it, even if they get picked out.
I like to cook with avocado and coconut oil too, but they have a lower smoke point, so I have to be more careful when I cook with those.
Popcorn cooked on the stovetop with coconut oil though, oh my that changes the game for home popcorn. Sprinkle a little fresh pressed garlic and squeeze some lime juice. Go very light so it's more of you know it's there than a major flavor. That's a game changing game changer there.

-Mike
 
  • Like
Reactions: Wisebass and pcake
Pretty much doing the same thing as usual, with some variations out of necessity.
And I have tried some different stuff, because that's what I could find--like pasta, cream of celery soup, spices & herbs, and cheese.
And left over chicken cut up.
 
we just ordered a manual grain mill that can be adapted to work with a drill as a motor, any motor that works with a certain size belt or can be used with a bike. or you can just hand crank it. it's this one

Invalid Link Removed

and we got it so we can grind soybeans to fine flour to make a lazy tofu, barley into barley flour, oats into oat flour and so on.
 
we just ordered a manual grain mill that can be adapted to work with a drill as a motor, any motor that works with a certain size belt or can be used with a bike. or you can just hand crank it. it's this one

Invalid Link Removed

and we got it so we can grind soybeans to fine flour to make a lazy tofu, barley into barley flour, oats into oat flour and so on.

I need to find a place to store that in our tiny home. Or maybe the KitchenAid attachment.
I agree with @Tom Bomb, brilliant. We've been struggling to find flour for weeks, yet there's sources a plenty for the raw grain.

-Mike
 
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
Question for you @pcake since I've never made flour. Is it a direct pound for pound relation between the wheat berries and the flour?
Meaning if I bought one pound of wheat berries, would that produce one pound of flour?
In the world of coffee roasting, when I put one pound of green coffee beans (16 ounces) in my roaster, I end up with 12 ounces of roasted coffee.

-Mike
 
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
we just ordered a manual grain mill that can be adapted to work with a drill as a motor, any motor that works with a certain size belt or can be used with a bike. or you can just hand crank it. it's this one

Invalid Link Removed

and we got it so we can grind soybeans to fine flour to make a lazy tofu, barley into barley flour, oats into oat flour and so on.

Cool, I hadn't seen them before.

"The Wonder Junior is a fast hand mill, producing 1-1/4 cups of fine wheat flour in 1 minute with very reasonable turning effort."

The Electric Wondermill looks good too. It has a high output and can run almost continuously. Same price as the manual crank junior mill.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pcake
Question for you @pcake since I've never made flour. Is it a direct pound for pound relation between the wheat berries and the flour?
Meaning if I bought one pound of wheat berries, would that produce one pound of flour?
In the world of coffee roasting, when I put one pound of green coffee beans (16 ounces) in my roaster, I end up with 12 ounces of roasted coffee.

-Mike
When we got our mill I did a measurement (by weight) of store bought whole wheat flour. One cup of ww flour weighs in at 5 ounces. You can measure your grain accordingly. The volume of grain vs flour would by necessity be different, so go by weight.

B.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MJ5150
When we got our mill I did a measurement (by weight) of store bought whole wheat flour. One cup of ww flour weighs in at 5 ounces. You can measure your grain accordingly. The volume of grain vs flour would by necessity be different, so go by weight.

B.

How much usable flour did you end up with compared to the amount of berries you ground?

-Mike
 
Question for you @pcake since I've never made flour. Is it a direct pound for pound relation between the wheat berries and the flour?
Meaning if I bought one pound of wheat berries, would that produce one pound of flour?
In the world of coffee roasting, when I put one pound of green coffee beans (16 ounces) in my roaster, I end up with 12 ounces of roasted coffee.

-Mike

you remove moisture while you roast, which won't happen from grinding. btw, Arie X also roasts his coffee - he has a nesco roaster. what kind do you use?

if you put in 16 ounces of grain, you should get 16 ounces of flour minus any small amount that sticks to the mill stones. i've been grinding my flour in a coffee grinder, but i can't get it fine enough. when i put in a couple of ounces, i get a couple ounces of flour if i scrape under the blade.

Cool, I hadn't seen them before.

"The Wonder Junior is a fast hand mill, producing 1-1/4 cups of fine wheat flour in 1 minute with very reasonable turning effort."

The Electric Wondermill looks good too. It has a high output and can run almost continuously. Same price as the manual crank junior mill.

i have friends with the electric wondermill and they love it. i wanted to get an electric mill, to be honest, but my husband wants something that will work with no electricity, and i can always get the drill attachment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MJ5150