Parting with my Ampeg 410hlf

[jd_watt]

I have to disagree, Alexander. I've achieved workable sounds at low SPLs, only to find that no amount of eq or technique could help at gig levels. It's never worked for me. I do agree on minimizing bass, however. I've nearly all of my lows cut on the amp, and it still booms. Either way, I'm done putting so much effort into getting a workable sound out of a cab that obviously isn't doing what I need it to do. I'd rather just make music

 

[SanDiegoHarry]

You want a good Mid presence? Eden. Get an older Eden cab and you will be happy.

 

[Syxz_ML]

I use the 410He. 1 or 2 of them, if you are looking for good hard hitting sound with a little grit.

I went from a 1x15 to a 4x10. During my search I tried the 410 HLF and agreed with your assessment. I then tried the 410 HE and bought it instantly. If you're possibly stick with the full Ampeg setup you might want to try out one of these.

 

[swamp_bass]

Definitely check out Markbass, Hartke, and GK. I have a Hartke hydrive 410 that is tight, goes low, but is balanced with a very bright and bold mid.

 

[AlexanderB]

jd_watt, I think you experienced the Fletcher-Munson effect. It will make things sound bassier and also with a bit more top end as the SPL increases from low (bedroom) to high (gig).

This phenomenon is what "saves" most of the "regular" bass cabs, as they are very rolled off in the lows. The SVT-410HLF (like the fEarful 15/6 etc) is also rolled off, but not as much. These latter cabs, including the HLF, are actually giving a truer representation of the lower register in our instruments. They will also be more revealing to gear or player shortcomings for the lows. The SVT-410HE and most other sealed cabs will roll off and (at high levels also severly compress!) the bottom octave, thus removing the potential issues related to "true lows on stage". (Interfering with the PA, bleeding into kick and other mikes, exciting room resonances etc.)

As always, defining needs and goals before purchase can be hard, but without those facts it is easy to get REALLY disappointed with any product.
I am very pleased with my Asian HLFs, but I know the US made ones are too dark for my taste.