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Peavey DE Scorpio: A Quick Review

I finally had a chance to put a Peavey DE Scorpio through its paces last week and as there had been a few questions about this bass on recent threads, I thought I'd share my impressions.

Background: I play traditional and alternative heavy rock. I like fast playing, high output basses that can sit bright, pretty and present in the mix. I'm a Peavey loyalist for their consistent quality and overall cost to value ratio. My main bass is a 90's Foundation with the Super Ferrites. I also have a Millennium AC BXP with the active VFL pups. The Foundation, as long as the strings are fresh, is the better sounding of those two basses, but the Millennium is more comfortable to play with a slimmer, faster neck and better weight and balance. I'm comparing with those two basses.

The DE Scorpio: First, aesthetically, this bass is a winner. I generally loathe pickguards but the chrome one here against the black gloss poly screams metal and looks really classy as well. I also love the newest rendition of the Peavey headstock. It's very elegant. :)

The fit and finish seemed superb. According to the sticker on the back of the neck, this bass is made in China. The bass balances well. No neck dive and it's nice and light; lighter than the Foundation and almost as well balanced as the Millennium. :)

The neck at first glance appears to be the same as the Millennium neck, but the proof is in the playing. It's 1.5" at the nut like the Foundation and Millennium necks, but feels slightly wider and flatter than either of those. It felt slightly deeper than the Millennium but not as deep as the Foundation. It would take some getting used to, but I think it would be a very comfortable neck to play once I got past how flat it felt. Like the Millennium it's a satin finish, which I prefer, as opposed to the gloss neck of the Foundation.

The sound: This is where this bass really disappoints IMHO.
I had really high hopes for the Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound P and J pups, considering the things I had read about them. I mean aren't they one of the more respected sets of P and J replacement pickups? I found the sound muddy, almost "foggy", to my ears, and no matter what I did on the bass or the amps, I couldn't dial in a distinct, resonant sound. Boosting the tone made the pick sound really clicky and tinny. Also and somewhat remarkably, the difference in the solo'd sounds of the neck P and the bridge J weren't all that perceptible. I tried the bass with a variety of amps; Ampeg, Markbass and Peavey. All tube, solid state and hybrid. Combos, and heads and cabs. 15s, 12s 10s and 8s. I couldn't get a useable tone out of this bass. :(

Just to make sure it wasn't me or the amps, I grabbed a Cirrus BXP and plugged it into the same amps and it was immediately obvious that the bad sound was in the Scorpio. I gotta blame the Duncans. The VFLs sounded great through the same amps with the same settings.

Maybe I'm spoiled. Are the Super Ferrites on my Foundation really that good? They seem to blow the Duncans right out of the water. I can get a good 'Arry P tone by soloing the neck pup on the Foundation and a good Geddy sound from the bridge. Putting the neck on full and the bridge 2/3 of the way up gives me just about a perfect sound.

Anyway, to sum up: the Scorpio is a great looking and feeling bass, with poor sound.

YMMV.

EDIT: 1/29/08

I had the chance to try another one of these this past weekend and I WAS able to get a good sound out of it. It took some adjustment to the EQ and contour, but I finally got there. So I concede that the first one I played may have been a lemon or had the world's worst set of strings on it. It still didn't have the liveliness of sound of my VFL or Super Ferrite-equipped basses, but considering how nice this one played and how great the instrument is styled, I would consider adding the Scorpio to my Peavey arsenal.
 
I also tried out the Peavey DE Scorpio this past weekend. I was quite surprised. It seems well built and played very nicely. As for the tone, sounded like a Duncan P+J to me. I liked it. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
 
I have the same one, here's my 0.02€ :

I am constantly writing reviews for harmony central but I wanted to wait at least a half year before writing a review to find out everything about it... so there you go with the short version...

I love everything about this bass. It's the best sounding all-passive instrument I have ever held in my hands (yes, it kicks out a MIA J easily. EASILY).
Pros:
the tuners are w00t.
the pickups are GREAT, but there is something you have to do to the pots.
the bridge does very good job and is very sturdy.
the pickguard is made of steel! it's some plated or painted stuff, this one is a keeper.
the neck is fast, well-made, well-sounding, not heavy... very very good.

Cons:
The 14th fret is sticking out a bit, although it's not wild and it still is my lowest-action bass.
The volume pots by default are 250k - on the Seymour Duncan page I found out that 500k would be correct. I didn't fix this yet because I didn't had the time and I already got used to them.
The tone pot was 250k and had a .25 capacitor. Correct would be: 500k, .46 . I changed the pot and it was a minor, but audible improvement.
the neck was shimmed with a strip of sanding paper. i still have it in a baggy for remembering... i have to say that removing that strip didn't change anything sound- or actionwise.

The pickups are extremly clear and bright. I am totally in love with em. So much tonal possibilites.... especially with the new tone pot which kills more treble. very jaco'esque on bridge PU.

I can't figure out your "foggy sound" problem. I found the sound very brittle and hissy at first.

I had 2 peavey fury's (5 string) and now got a 4string ac bxp and I hate everyone of those three. I threw the first one out of the window (that's a long story), I left the second at a public railway station (perhaps I wanted to get rid of it, sub-consciousness-wise) and I won the 4-stringer at a band contest so I can't sell it..
I dislike the preamp, I dislike the EQ frequencies, I dislike the fact that on all three the blend pot didn't work (it only allowed Neck, 50/50, bridge, like a 3way switch). the circuits are not buffered, which means you will hear loud buzzing when turning a EQ knob while a note stands.

In any comparison the DE Scorpio kicks out the fury / cirrus ac bxp [korea/malaysia]-line.

When you're in Vienna/Austria someday, stop by and play MY zodiac. :)
 
i played one at GC last weekend - nice instrument except that there was a burr somewhere on the top edge of the chrome pickguard which shreaded my forearm! ouch!

JR
 
Just got my Peavey Zodiac DE Scorpio last week. First thing I did was put it through my all tube SVT and Mesa Cab. WOW I am exstatic, I found the tone that I've had in my head for years! I played it with both pickups on and then solo'd each pickup. I def prefer to solo the P over just the J alone (personal preference). The strings were old because GC prob never re-strung this bass...The deaden strings with the Quarterpounder Duncan P solo'd and the treble rolled off gave me a very motownish sound. This surprised me but it was interesting because if I ever wanted to get that Motown sound or to get Steve Harris' tone all I need equipment wise is flatwounds and roll off some treble. The one and only thing on my bass is that around the 5th fret the fret bulges a bit through to the bottom of the neck. I had to look for iit-t's not obvious. It doesn't effect my playing so I don't mind. If this bass was made in America it would go up in value by $400 at least. Build quality is amazing.

I prefer an in your face punchy and slightly fat tone. David Ellefson and Duff McKagan are my two major bass influences. The moment I put on my strings of choice, this bass came to life! I use La'Bella Hard Rockin' Steels and oooo wow...the Scorpio screams with these strings! I'm set.

I love this bass and can't wait to play next to my buddies in a hard rock setting towards blues and with other buddies that are 'bangers and will have high output ESP guitars with EMGs...My other bass is a Geddy Lee with Dimarzio Model Js-it sounds great (I still need to make the pots 500K) but this Peavey is def in the No. 1 spotlight right now!

This bass is amazing for Rock, Metal and I don't think it's limited to just that-I don't see why you can't get a Motown sound from it or something along those lines.

BTW I went from an Ibanez SRX 700 to this bass. Active to Passive. I think the Ibanez was more versatile but this bass is def. what I wanted!
 
Just bought my DE yesterday, absolutely love it - albeit with a couple of minor issues. I knew it was *the* bass for me, because it's pretty much against every spec I have in my mind for 'ideal' bass - passive, pickguard, rosewood fingerboard - all things I don't want generally. Picked this one up, and literally can't put it down. Seriously, I have it in my car at the moment (practice tonight), and gonna go out at lunch and play with it.

Anyway, issues that do revolve around quality control. One, there was another one there at the store, but I picked this one because the nut on the other was pretty visibly askew. Probably not enough to affect it, but it also had a completely dead set of strings on it, so I opted for this one.

Two, mine does feel like it has some neck dive, though it's probably just the cheap strap I'm using at the moment. Will put on a nicer one and go from there. I do love how solid the tuners feel though. If I have to put ultralites on, I will, but hoping not.

Three, when I have the volume up full on both PUPs, the volume drops considerably. I'm assuming this means I have a phase problem? I back one off about a quarter and I'm at full volume again. Works the same on both. Does GC do warranty work on clearance stuff? Might have to find out, though I'm also considering putting in a preamp - cause I'm an upgrade junkie. :D

So, at least in my experience, it's well worth trying before you buy. The QC issues are minimal, but they are there from what I've seen.

All that being said, I love it. The sound on the PUPs, even if I'm using one at a time for now, is great, exactly what I was looking for. Plays like a dream, and feels rock-solid.
 
Interested if anyone has any further feedback on the Scorpio now that it's been out for a couple years?

Pros or cons..

Seems like they're hard to come by. I only saw a couple of Ebay and trying to stear clear of buying one anywhere near list.

Cheers..
 
Interested if anyone has any further feedback on the Scorpio now that it's been out for a couple years?

Pros or cons..

Seems like they're hard to come by. I only saw a couple of Ebay and trying to stear clear of buying one anywhere near list.

Cheers..

Old thread this but what the heck...

So yeah, searched for the Scorpio DE as I wanted to find more about my bass. In addition to the Scorpio De I also play a Jackson custom shop 32" JJ, a 1985 first series Kawai FIIB, and I have very recently also acquired a customized Fender CS Relic´60´s Jazz Bass which houses a German Hot Wire neck and Dimarzio DP123 picups s on it... - The U.S. MSRP for this bass - when available in between 1995 and 1999vfrom Fender - was $2,599.99 sans the upgrades (or "upgrades" depending on how you look at it) ;)

All these basses feel and sound very different but one thing is for certain based on my novice understanding of what a bass is: make no mistake about it - the Zodiac DE is a wonderful instrument! Sometimes the whole is bigger than the parts that make it and I guess this happened with the Zodiac DE: the stars were aligned just perfectly when Peavey decided to go for it, pun intended.

It is hard to describe how this bass feels in any other word as "nimble". A very underrated instrument it is and I am very, very, happy to have one! :bassist:

Thanks,

J.
 
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I had this Peavey Scorpio DE for sale in the classifieds, fortunately the deal fell through and I am very happy to say that I am keeping this thing...

Wow, I am sooooo impressed with this bass. I threw on some Hipshot ultralite tuners and light gage D'addario Chromes. Been gigin' it for about a month now, and keeping my Shecter California Custom jazz bass in the case.

The tone is solid, the feel is excellent especially after I took a little steal wool to the back of the neck. The quality of the bass is so hard to fault, super tight neck pocket, great pups (SD quarter pounders that seem to really work well in this bass), I set the neck up with super low action and not a single buzz.. FAST neck, woods are all top notch with the weight being perfect for a long 4 set night... and the chrome pick guard I think fits right in with my funk band, got a bit of a Prince vibe ;)

Anyway, anyone looking to buy a bass should look no further! Thats if you like black and can stay positive about the Chrome pick guard. Best thing of all... I bought the bass in new condition on CL for $60 :)
 

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I finally had a chance to put a Peavey DE Scorpio through its paces last week and as there had been a few questions about this bass on recent threads, I thought I'd share my impressions.

Background: I play traditional and alternative heavy rock. I like fast playing, high output basses that can sit bright, pretty and present in the mix. I'm a Peavey loyalist for their consistent quality and overall cost to value ratio. My main bass is a 90's Foundation with the Super Ferrites. I also have a Millennium AC BXP with the active VFL pups. The Foundation, as long as the strings are fresh, is the better sounding of those two basses, but the Millennium is more comfortable to play with a slimmer, faster neck and better weight and balance. I'm comparing with those two basses.

The DE Scorpio: First, aesthetically, this bass is a winner. I generally loathe pickguards but the chrome one here against the black gloss poly screams metal and looks really classy as well. I also love the newest rendition of the Peavey headstock. It's very elegant. :)

The fit and finish seemed superb. According to the sticker on the back of the neck, this bass is made in China. The bass balances well. No neck dive and it's nice and light; lighter than the Foundation and almost as well balanced as the Millennium. :)

The neck at first glance appears to be the same as the Millennium neck, but the proof is in the playing. It's 1.5" at the nut like the Foundation and Millennium necks, but feels slightly wider and flatter than either of those. It felt slightly deeper than the Millennium but not as deep as the Foundation. It would take some getting used to, but I think it would be a very comfortable neck to play once I got past how flat it felt. Like the Millennium it's a satin finish, which I prefer, as opposed to the gloss neck of the Foundation.

The sound: This is where this bass really disappoints IMHO.
I had really high hopes for the Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound P and J pups, considering the things I had read about them. I mean aren't they one of the more respected sets of P and J replacement pickups? I found the sound muddy, almost "foggy", to my ears, and no matter what I did on the bass or the amps, I couldn't dial in a distinct, resonant sound. Boosting the tone made the pick sound really clicky and tinny. Also and somewhat remarkably, the difference in the solo'd sounds of the neck P and the bridge J weren't all that perceptible. I tried the bass with a variety of amps; Ampeg, Markbass and Peavey. All tube, solid state and hybrid. Combos, and heads and cabs. 15s, 12s 10s and 8s. I couldn't get a useable tone out of this bass. :(

Just to make sure it wasn't me or the amps, I grabbed a Cirrus BXP and plugged it into the same amps and it was immediately obvious that the bad sound was in the Scorpio. I gotta blame the Duncans. The VFLs sounded great through the same amps with the same settings.

Maybe I'm spoiled. Are the Super Ferrites on my Foundation really that good? They seem to blow the Duncans right out of the water. I can get a good 'Arry P tone by soloing the neck pup on the Foundation and a good Geddy sound from the bridge. Putting the neck on full and the bridge 2/3 of the way up gives me just about a perfect sound.

Anyway, to sum up: the Scorpio is a great looking and feeling bass, with poor sound.

YMMV.

EDIT: 1/29/08

I had the chance to try another one of these this past weekend and I WAS able to get a good sound out of it. It took some adjustment to the EQ and contour, but I finally got there. So I concede that the first one I played may have been a lemon or had the world's worst set of strings on it. It still didn't have the liveliness of sound of my VFL or Super Ferrite-equipped basses, but considering how nice this one played and how great the instrument is styled, I would consider adding the Scorpio to my Peavey arsenal.

EDIT #2 11/1/14

Seven years and a couple of Peaveys after my initial review, I finally own one of these. Note that they have been out of production for a number of years, but there is still at least one source on the net blowing out remaining stock for about $500. Initial MSRP was $900 and retail about $700; I got mine on the 'bay gently used for under $150. After a cleaning and setup it's good to go.

Unlike the either of the ones I tried in-store, this one is very heavy with only the tiniest bit of downward pull from the headstock. It also has the the truss rod adjustment at the headstock rather than at the end of the neck. I actually prefer the latter as with my Millenniums, but it is what it is. The neck radius is 8", the same as the Millenniums, but I think the wider, flatter feel is because the Scorpio's neck is noticeably deeper.

The major difference is that this one is an aggressive tone beast. Metal for days! I'm playing it through my Peavey BAM's SVT/810 model with a Sansamp programmable bass driver in front and it is pummeling. I've tried lowering the Duncans as far as I can get them to go and it still is a grinding menace of a tone. I'm waiting to hear how it sounds in a band context. Next week I'll know if it is a keeper or a sleeper as far as that goes.

So to conclude this second update, it seems there is a wide variance in these basses. Every one I've tried has sounded entirely different from the others. Weird, but in the case of this particular instrument, good.
 
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Edit #3 4/4/20

I’ve made some major improvements to this bass since I first bought it. First I replaced the ugly cloverleaf tuners with some refined Hipshot Ultralite Y-style tuners. Better tuning stability and much prettier. More importantly I replaced the old-school bridge with a modern Hipshot A style which gives better tone and sustain and again helps eliminate some of the “trying too hard to nod to a bygone era” look the original hardware had.

Most importantly I replaced the stock Duncan pickups with a EMG Geezer Butler signature set. Now I have eliminated the hum built into the Duncans and replaced the intrinsic brittleness of them with a meatier and more controllable tone. The only thing I wish now is that the pickup covers came with rounded covers ala the Nordstrands on my Ibanez basses. The sharp square corners of the pickups are a little uncomfortable to my palm while playing. Otherwise, this bass has become a better player in every way than it was stock.
 
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Most importantly I replaced the stock Duncan pickups with a EMG Geezer Butler signature set.
Ellefson never intended for Duncans to be in the DE Scorpio.
His original design called for the stock Zodiac BXP pickups, the marketing folks said " we can't charge 100s of dollars extra for a mirror PG and your scribble ! ". Inclusion of Duncans was a Sales & Marketing decision, Dave said do himself after he'd left stopped working for Peavey.
 
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