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Peavy Black Widow 15 speaker

Guys. Please. Get it right. The whole field replaceable basket speaker Peavey uses is a gift from ElectroVoice. It simply did't reach the efficiency expected from a speaker made by EV, so they sold it to Peavey. Not to say that there's anything wrong with it. BWs are good speakers.
 
does anyone know what would be best (if ports are tuned properly) single <stand alone single 15 or maybe ran in parallel with a 2-10> for 5 string.. EVB, eminence delta 15 pro or black widow?

IMHO the 1505-8DT and the EVB-pro are the two to really consider. I wouldnt run them with a 210, I would run a 215 stack.

How hard would it be to add a tweeter to an old Peavey combo amp?

Depends on how much space you have on the baffle, and how much of your internal volume you are willing to sacrifice.
 
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Also, be careful not to confuse the Black Widow 1505DT with the Black Widow 1505KADT, which is a different model. And pay attention to 4 ohm vs. 8 ohm; you can't drop the total load below your amp's minimum rating.

I have a 1-15 Peavey enclosure with the 1502, which has a ribbed cone. It sounds good and has more top-end cut than you might expect. It's 4 ohm, though, which means I have to use it as a stand-alone cabinet with my amps. Peavey has confirmed that I can convert my driver to a 1505DT by swapping the basket onto the existing magnet, but the enclosure itself isn't ideally sized and ported to take full advantage of that driver. I'm about to build a pair of 12" cabs, but in the meantime I'm pondering my 2-15 options. It will either be a 2-15 cabinet with the Dayton PA380 as the budget (and extremely compact) option, or a pair of 1-15 boxes with the BW 1505DT-8.

I could look it up but since I'm here, do they make a 4 ohm model that has acceptable Xmax?

According to Peavey, the 1505-4DT has an Xmax of 4.8mm, and the 1502-4DT has an Xmax of 2.8mm.

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Thanx cl400. do you know if there is much difference /(loss of upper mids) with the 1505-8DT vs the 02?

this is what one set of specs stated:
Sensitivity (SPL) 98.9dB Frequency Range 40Hz-2kHz
Continuous Power (EIA RS-426A) 350 Watts Program Power 700 Watts Voice Coil Diameter 4" / 99mm

"Black widow" is a line of speakers, not a single model of speaker. The 1505-8DT is the more robust of the two 15" models.
Peavey 1505-8 BW 8 Ohm 700 W Peak 350 W Program 200 W Continuous
Frequency Response: 40-2kHz Sensitivity: 99db
 
The response charts are published. Take a look for your self.
cool, but, this spec states nothing about bass guit cab use!.. guess u have tried both already.. would have never knew about the actual application(s) without Your recommendation.. appreciate it.
  • THE PEAVEY 1505-8BW IS FOR ALL SOUND REINFORCEMENT AND PA APPLICATIONS
  • EXCELLENT WOOFER IN MUTLI-WAY ENCLOSURES OR AS BOTTOM END IN 2-WAY SYSTEMS
  • POWERFUL LOW END
  • KEVLAR CONE FOR STRENGTH TO HANDLE POUNDING BASS LINES
 
cool, but, this spec states nothing about bass guit cab use!.. guess u have tried both already.. would have never knew about the actual application(s) without Your recommendation.. appreciate it.
  • THE PEAVEY 1505-8BW IS FOR ALL SOUND REINFORCEMENT AND PA APPLICATIONS
  • EXCELLENT WOOFER IN MUTLI-WAY ENCLOSURES OR AS BOTTOM END IN 2-WAY SYSTEMS
  • POWERFUL LOW END
  • KEVLAR CONE FOR STRENGTH TO HANDLE POUNDING BASS LINES

The low end will be determined by the cab they are loaded in to. Response above a certain point will depend on if the cab is stuffed properly, and the driver chosen.
 
I JUST got a Combo 300 yesterday with a BW speaker, so I really can't comment just yet. Sounds good to me so far though, I'm just not good at telling how it sounds different than my old amp.

Here's a picture though.

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I had a Combo 300 with a BW and an extension cab that had a BW speaker back in the1980's. Tremendous sound. It would fill any venue we played, indoors or out. Built like a tank and made for abuse. The speakers really pumped out the chest thumping low end.
 
Thanx cl400. do you know if there is much difference /(loss of upper mids) with the 1505-8DT vs the 02?


IMO, there is no loss of UPPER mids in the 1505. If anything, they're a little clearer, more "present".

What the 1502 does well is play loud, then when you get louder, it gets some breakup/aggressive tone of its own in the mids.

What the 1505 does well is also play loud, but you can hit it with more power and it stays cleaner/clearer up to really loud levels. So, it doesn't get that speaker breakup tone. Well, it can...when it's taking so much power it looks like it's about to fly out of the box....but it handles more power from the bass and gives it back to you as clear sound.

If anything, at lower power levels, I'd call the 1505 a bit more prominent in the uppermids and the 1502 a bit more prominent in the middle mids.

At high power levels, the 1505 will keep giving you what you shove into it and hold together, where the 1502 will start to give a more aggresive speaker breakup sort of drive. Some folks like that sound, and that's cool, the 1502 is the choice then. If you want to lay on the power and have the speaker give it back to you without putting its own breakup tone on everything, at least not until it's so loud it hurts, then the 1505 is the choice.


Oddly, the 1502 (the one that breaks up earlier) was used in most bass cabs and advertised as a bass speaker. The 1505 was used more in PA gear, including some small bandpass subs, but is very much the more robust speaker for clear bass. This kind of goes against the conventional wisdom of the '80's, where bass was supposed to be clean and clear, and guitars were supposed to be dirty.


Leave it to Peavey. :)


The performance aspects of the 1505DT-8 still meet or beat many of the "good" bass speakers of today, and the basic design is a good bit over 30 years old now. Only (relatively) recently have we neos with that sort of performance blend, of strong lows, high spl, and good topend performance (for a bass guitar, or to pass off to a good quality mid/high driver in a PA cab) where you can have a single 15 that can actually carry a small bar room on its own (and I mean carry it, not just be heard), or 215's that can blow the doors off the place, without giving up some aspect of performance, be it giving up real bass for overall loudness, or making real bass at the expense of overall loudness or being limited such that they need to be crossed over to a smaller driver to get definition in the sound. For example old JBL's, EV's, and Altecs can run that loud or louder but they can't bring with it the lows of that Widow without crapping the bed at high power.

God didn't design them, so they're not perfect, but Peavey did, so they're damn good.