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Double Bass Pedal to emulate STANDUP sound ?

#3
there is nothing that can make an electric sound like an upright. There is only one thing that can imitate that sound. its an acoustic fretless bass i tried at rudys music in new york. it was $4,000. easier to play than an actual upright. you could get a full band eq pedal and turn the highs down and lows up. just work with it. i have a real upright.
 
#5
My generic answer to this question is: Listen to Scott LaFaro's performance on the "Village Vanguard" album. In other words, no.

If you ask the same question on the BG side, you will get a variety of answers, but in my observation, the criteria for success require adopting a limited concept of what a double bassist can do. Some of the measures that are recommended, such as palm muting and electronic compression, make the cure seem worse than the disease.

It's like swimming across the Pacific Ocean. You have to decide what fraction of success is good enough.

Meanwhile, DB players are not limited in the same way. We have every tonal and rhythmic possibility at our disposal, and I daresay that contemporary players exploit those possibilities in ways that make the "upright sound" both a moving target and impossible to fully emulate.

I learned jazz on BG before I took up the DB. The most satisfactory "emulation" that I was able to achieve came about by leaving my instrument alone, and learning my way around the fretboard as well as I could, while listening to Ray Brown for hours on end until I could cop his style as well as I could within the limits of my abilities.
 
#9
jlsbass said:
close to the tone of an acoustic Standup bass ?
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I see that you're not really expecting the make a p-bass sound just like a double bass. You're asking if a pedal could make your p-pass sound "close" to a double bass. So, the real question is "how close is close"?

I agree that with composite object modeling you should be able to get part-way to an acoustic sound.

But, there are so many differences between the slab and doghouse. For example, There are body resonances, string variations (the type of strings make a lot more difference on an acoustic bass than on a bass guitar) and how the act of pulling a note from the string effects the tone. I think it would be a modeler's nightmare (or dream!).

Having said that, for a person who has never really listened to a double bass, then I can imagine that you could get a "double bass like sound" from a pedal. But, I would be really surprised if someone who is familiar with the sound of a real double bass would be fooled. Think of the "acoustic guitar like sound" that some synthesizers (and pedals) generate from an electric guitar - not too great, eh?! Oh, and you don't get to fool around with the bow! ;)

I suggest that you give the double bass a try. It's really much more fun (and, beware, addictive :help:) than I could possibly describe using the written word. :D
 
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johnz said:
I see that you're not really expecting the make a p-bass sound just like a double bass. You're asking if a pedal could make your p-pass sound "close" to a double bass. So, the real question is "how close is close"?

I agree that with composite object modeling you should be able to get part-way to an acoustic sound.
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Yes, my thoughts were on COSM too. The thing is its always an emulation of a clichéd tone.

So my first thoughts when I see "STANDUP sound" is what the F does a standup sound like? There are as many double bass tones as there are double basses. I even hear people say some double basses sound too electric, so go figure.
 
#16
SpamBot said:
EBS FutilityDrive
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:p:p:p

when people tell me my Rob Allen sounds like an upright bass, I wanna slap em. If someone played a mandolin with a bow, would you tell them they have a really pretty lookin violin? I digress...

hopefully this can help end the thread and help the OP:
some hall reverb, roll off the highs and rip the frets outta that p bass.
for someone who doesn't know any better, this will sound 'standup-py'

OVER!
 
#19
Honk'n_down-low said:
I think it really depends on what Upright Sound. I think you can get close enough with the right muting, hand placement and eq. IMO.
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I've read this several times on the BG side. My only concern is what palm muting would do to my BG technique if I was doing anything but basic walking. My DB playing can be rather bombastic.
 

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