pentatonic

[MCBTunes]

ok if the root note is at the 2nd fret/ 3rd striong would the pentatonic scale look like

1) -----------2-4------------------G
-------2-4------------------------D
--2-4-----------------------------A
---------------2-5----------------E

or

2) -----------2-4----------------------
-------2-4--------------------------
--2-5-------------------------------
-----------------2-4-----------------

Or am I off base? I'm confused about the root deal, because te pentatonic pattern is in #1, but then for # 1 wouldnt the root be F#? where as in #2 the its the same pattern played at the root but the notes are off? My assumption is that the #1 is correct. But?

 

[godoze]

a pentatonic scale say starting on "c" on the a string would be as follows :

c, eb, f,g, Bb,c

or in tab terms 1,4,1,3,1,3.

the pattern is the same regardless of position.

this is for minor pentatonic

for major pentatonic
again starting on "c" would be as follows:

2,4,1,4,1,4 or c,d,e,g,a,c

again this pattern is the same regardless of position.

 

[MCBTunes]

sooption 2 would be correct? just without the E string?

 

[godoze]

i do not understand that graphic.

do you know the notes on the fingerboard ?

 

[MCBTunes]

it would be B,D,G,A,A,B,(F#,G#) <--- B minor pentatonic?


------------2-4---------------------G
-------2-4--------------------------D
--2-5-------------------------------A
-----------------(2-4)--------------E

it is just read left to right on tab form. so fret 2 on A string, fret 5 on A, fret 2 on D, fret 4 on D etc.

 

[godoze]

b minor pentatonic is :

b,d,e,f#,a,b

 

[MCBTunes]

well that doesnt follow the pattern though does it?

 

[godoze]

what ? that is the pattern for b minor pentatonic.
b(1) d(4) e(1) f#(3) a(1) b)3)

 

[Intrepid]

well that doesnt follow the pattern though does it?

Well your patterns are obviously incorrect.

a minor pentatonic
A C D E G

G-------------------
D--------------5---7
A----3---5---7-----
E---5---------------

It's bad to think in patterns anyways.

Eb minor pentatonic
Eb Gb Ab Bb Db

I'd need a fingerboard in front of me to put that on a tab. I usually picture a keyboard.

 

[godoze]

And why is it bad to think in patterns ?

 

[MCBTunes]

yeah i dont see a problem with patterns.

DZ, which fret of which string this note on e(1)?

 

[akuma12]

It's so much easier to think in patterns than to think in note names. Yes, it's good to be able to say the individual notes of a chord, like CEGBb, but in the middle of playing, it's much easier to think 2-1-4-2 in terms of fingers. At least in my opinion.

 

[MCBTunes]

Ok, this is the minor pentatonic pattern. If we move this pattern down to B(second fret 3rd string)

it would be
B,D,G,A,A,B

I cant see where i'm going wrong here.
1,4,1,3,1,3 is that pattern is it not?

 

[godoze]

Ok, this is the minor pentatonic pattern. If we move this pattern down to B(second fret 3rd string)

it would be
B,D,G,A,A,B

I cant see where i'm going wrong here.
1,4,1,3,1,3 is that pattern is it not?

Right on! just remeber that this same pattern for minor pent. applies to any mp scale started on the e and a strings.

 

[burntgorilla]

Ok, this is the minor pentatonic pattern. If we move this pattern down to B(second fret 3rd string)

it would be
B,D,G,A,A,B

I cant see where i'm going wrong here.
1,4,1,3,1,3 is that pattern is it not?

Would it not be

B,D, E, F#, A, B?

Edit: It might help if you learn the degrees of the scale, it makes it easier to work out notes.

 

[godoze]

Would it not be

B,D, E, F#, A, B?

Edit: It might help if you learn the degrees of the scale, it makes it easier to work out notes.

yes, that would be b minor pentatonic.

his graphic is ambiguos because he does not show which fret "1" on the e string is on.

 

[godoze]

the scale degrees are as follows :

minor pent : root, minor 3rd, p4,p5,m7
major pent : root, M2,M3,p5,M6
major scale: root,M2,M3,p4,p5,M6,M7
pure minor : root, M2,m3,p4,p5,m6,m7
harmonic minor: root, M2,m3,p4,p5,m6,M7
melodic minor ascending : root, M2,m3,p4,p5,M6,M7
melodic minor descending : root,m7,m6,p5,p4,m3,M2,root

After writing all of that i realized that "root" should actually be writtne in this contect as "tonic."

 

[slinkp]

ok if the root note is at the 2nd fret/ 3rd striong would the pentatonic scale look like

1) -----------2-4------------------G
-------2-4------------------------D
--2-4-----------------------------A
---------------2-5----------------E

or

2) -----------2-4----------------------
-------2-4--------------------------
--2-5-------------------------------
-----------------2-4-----------------

first of all "the pentatonic scale" is ambiguous. I think you're
talking about minor pentatonic.
Anyway the answer is neither. Each of your examples makes
a different mistake. #1 gets the second note wrong, #2 gets the
last note wrong. B minor pentatonic would look like this:

-----------2-4----------------------
-------2-4--------------------------
--2-5-------------------------------
-----------------2-5-----------------

And of course there's a million fingerings...
here's some random riffs...


--------------------------7-9-7---------
------------------7-9-----------9-----
-----------7-9--------------------------
--7--10---------------------------------


or (first finger at 5th fret; second finger at 7th fret)

--------------------------7-9-7---------
--------------------7-9-----------9-----
-----------5-7-9------------------------
--7-5-7---------------------------------

or

-----------------------2-4--------------
---------------0-2-4-------------------
--------0-2-----------------------------
--0-2-----------------------------------


I agree with others that thinking in patterns is problematic.
Why? Because patterns put your focus on the purely mechanical,
physical, and spatial part of the process, and this puts your concentration in a left-brain mode which is not creative. This distracts you from focusing on what the music actually sounds like. Your hand might "know" patterns, but your brain should not be thinking about them. Your brain should always be hearing sound first and foremost.

That's how I think about it anyway.

I once heard a great artist say, "Don't make drawings; instead, watch your hand draw." It's a shift of focus that makes a big difference. Applied to music, I'd say: don't play the instrument; listen to yourself playing the instrument.

 

[godoze]

how is the pentatonic scale ambiguos ? I gotta hear this.

 

[godoze]

slinkp your scales are not even 5 note scales !