Sam Rivers might not be the best bassist...but who is then? Everryone says this bassist sux, and this bassist sux, ans so does that one. I can quite a few average bassists. They don't suck. Sam is average, and so is fieldy. So is mark hoppus from blink 182 and Mike Herrera of MxPx. So give 'em a break. Sure, we might be better...but then why arn't we selling like that? Because they are sell outs! They make music that makes money...can you blame 'em?