Hmm....been in many bands? When you hire someone for ANY job, knowing how they intend to get to that job is a critical question.
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People with no vehicle?
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Hmm....been in many bands? When you hire someone for ANY job, knowing how they intend to get to that job is a critical question.
I would likely fire the person the first time they didnt' show... but it is none of my busnisness how he gets around.
Or.....ask the question and don't waste your time with the player that thinks you're going to be his personal taxi.
A "no show" can cost you a gig and your reputation as a band (or band leader). I'm not going to risk that based on some "it's none of my business" attitude.
I don't currently have a car. I do have a fiance with a car and a strong drive to be on time. In 'personal' bands ill catch rides and remember to compensate those members. If its a 'business' band ill work it out. On horn gigs or gigs without bringing my amp, I will HAPPILY bike there and usually be the first member there
Yep, over the years in the pass I transported many musician friends to and from gigs - but they were good friends and lived close so it really wasn't a big deal. However, from a band business view point - unless you have a band bus, no transportation would be a total deal breaker.
It probably is appropriate to ask if the person has reliable transporation... I don't think you should demand they own their own car though. The two arn't the same thing.
I couldn't care less how the person gets around. But I made it clear that the rehearsals would be in suburban areas, which are not necessarily near any public transport.
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To me its an absolute deal breaker! We always put in our CL add "must have job and own transpertation" (because of past experiences) there are some exceptions Depending on if you live in a large city that has killer public transportation he/she might be tolerated for not having his/her own transpertation. But I've dealt with this in the past and it is an absolute pain in the arse! To me it shows the person is irresponsible and can't even own and operate a vehicle. So my feeling is "good bye" we'll keep loolking
To me its an absolute deal breaker! We always put in our CL add "must have job and own transpertation" (because of past experiences) there are some exceptions Depending on if you live in a large city that has killer public transportation he/she might be tolerated for not having his/her own transpertation. But I've dealt with this in the past and it is an absolute pain in the arse! To me it shows the person is irresponsible and can't even own and operate a vehicle. So my feeling is "good bye" we'll keep loolking
I have a sub drummer in one of my bands with no car, but he's good, and I prefer him to the subs the other guy knows. So I'll go pick him up myself if at all possible. It's worth it to me as the bass player and he'll chip in on fuel in needed.
With the exception of a few cities in the US, it's very difficult to live without a car. In other parts of the world where public transportation is top notch and affordable, it's not a big deal.
I haven't lived in the US since 2000 nor have I owned a car since then. You don't realize how much of your income goes into owning an automobile until you don't have one: fuel, insurance, maintenance, parking, etc. Not having a car frees up my money for a lot more enjoyable things.
I haven't lived in the US since 2000 nor have I owned a car since then. You don't realize how much of your income goes into owning an automobile until you don't have one: fuel, insurance, maintenance, parking, etc. Not having a car frees up my money for a lot more enjoyable things.
Was his name Ginger? He got his first gig with a child's toy drum set.
I live in the burbs and one of the things I don't like about it that a car is a requirement to live.
One of my life goals was to retire to A'Dam but that is another failure on my part.
I took a class in economics at a local community college. One of the questions I had was how do Europeans live like they do making less money and being taxed so heavily.
He mumbo jumboed about this and that easy correct answer is they don't rely as much on cars as Americans do. I'll bet the average American spends 10K$ plus on their automobile.
That's real coin when most Americans have a take home pay in the vicinity of 30K$ a year. I'm trying to walk up the TF to move to a car free area (walk Friendly) and readjust my life to a carless life. I'm 60, as of this weekend and even thinking about a massive change like that is scary.
But it is just so rational. Walking is so much healthier than driving. Not only for the person but the enviorment.
To the OP, what are you offering for what you want?
If you are an established band with paying gigs you can be selective about your requirements. If you are a startup with lots of practice for few to no gigs, not so much.
Too many people think it is all about what THEY want, and not what they have to OFFER.
If you are an established band with paying gigs you can be selective about your requirements. If you are a startup with lots of practice for few to no gigs, not so much.
Too many people think it is all about what THEY want, and not what they have to OFFER.
The writer Harry Crews had a quote that went something like (I'm paraphrasing), "Living in the US is madness. People will drive a 4000 pound car one mile to the grocery store to buy a loaf of bread that weighs 20 ounces."
Australia is very similar - there are places where you can get by without having a car but you've really got to be travelling within a limited range of places at particular times of day. If your life doesn't fit within certain parameters, it gets pretty difficult.
I've lived in Beijing since 2008 and haven't missed paying for any of those things you listed! Frankly I don't think car ownership is desirable at all here - though most people in the city don't seem to think that way. The subway just keeps getting more extensive and the traffic and lack of parking just gets worse.
I was just in Bangkok in January - now that's traffic. Hope you're doing ok with the curfews and such.
I wouldn't own a car in Bangkok if it was given to me for free. There's no need. I think that goes for most big Asian cities whether in Japan, China, Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea... Public transportation is excellent and can get you anywhere you need to go for a very low cost.
The military coup and curfew is fine for now. Thanks for the concern. But gigs do have to start and end earlier.
During my younger days I lived in an apartment complex. The mail was delivered into centralized boxes. I watched one individual get into her car, drive 3 spots to the mail boxes, get out, get her mail. Then drive back and park the car.
It isn't a deal breaker for me. I do encourage anyone who wants to gig, professionally especially, to learn how to drive. However everyones situation is different and often I have given people to lifts, it is only really a drag when you really have to go out of your way to collect or drop them off but most people always offer to throw some petrol money which is a nice gesture. If someone knows how much trouble it is for you and is happy to help out anyway they can then I don't have a problem.
Absolutely. Micro amps, good 112s, and (even better) bars with decent backline make it even easier to live with as a bass player.
Glad things are ok for you. Gigs starting and finishing earlier...more sleep! Now there's a positive
