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Playing bass through a PPA or PA cabs

bassballs27

bassballs27

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Aug 12, 2002
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#1
Hey guys.

I've been doing some research and have been thinking about getting a PPA or Portable PA system with powered cabs and powered subs. The Bose F1 812 and 2x10 sub looks amazing as does the L1 model 2 with the B2 Sub. Pricey though.
I do own a mixer and may like to put it to use. My intended use for these would be mainly in my 400 Sq ft basement and I'd bet they would be overkill at 1000W of class D power per unit. However many people know me to have huge equipment.

I also own a QSC PLX 3602 that's siting around not doing much. I'd love to pair it with some really nice pa cabs to use as monitors and possibly some powered subs or get another power amp for the subs if needed to run anything from guitar to drums through . I had a pair of Yorkville Unity 2x15s PA cabs I used for a while that where all right but couldn't handle bass as well and we're a but too bulky.

Just curious if some people are using PA cabs (other than fearful / fearless) with great success and if so which models?
Anyone tried the Bose F1 with bass?
Is it worth considering?
 
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JimmyM said:
I've tried the original F1 with bass, and I play gigs at the Villages in Florida where the PA installations are mostly Bose. They are OK at best. There is better for less money IMHO.
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Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Bose is always big money no matter what they make. They do sound good but I'd bet lots of sound guys bock at them. They're good for their general use but for lots of clear bass I'd bet their is better out there.
 
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bassballs27 said:
Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Bose is always big money no matter what they make. They do sound good but I'd bet lots of sound guys bock at them. They're good for their general use but for lots of clear bass I'd bet their is better out there.
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I don't even think they sound particularly good, to be honest.
 
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Old Garage-Bander said:
Then you don't need 1000W per, in your basement, right?
It's only a 1000 if turned up all the way.
Just sayin'.
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Maybe not in my basement, but elsewhere I might.

1000W isn't a lot of power by today's standards. It's a 1000W of class D too.
There are guys that have 4000W in a subwoofer driving down the street.

I enjoy the perception of loud. I use a QSC PLX 3002 in my living room as a practice amp and that's 900W at 4 ohms into my Bergantino HD410. I had two of these at one point. And believe me just because that's 900W stereo....that's not 1800W of power. It only gave me about 3dB of gain. That's it.

I'm always expecting to be disappointed with most amps but have hope that I'll be proven wrong.

Find me a 100W bass amp that will blow that bose setup out of the water.....and I'll buy it.
 
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bassballs27 said:
Maybe not in my basement, but elsewhere I might.

1000W isn't a lot of power by today's standards. It's a 1000W of class D too.
There are guys that have 4000W in a subwoofer driving down the street.

I enjoy the perception of loud. I use a QSC PLX 3002 in my living room as a practice amp and that's 900W at 4 ohms into my Bergantino HD410. I had two of these at one point. And believe me just because that's 900W stereo....that's not 1800W of power. It only gave me about 3dB of gain. That's it.

I'm always expecting to be disappointed with most amps but have hope that I'll be proven wrong.

Find me a 100W bass amp that will blow that bose setup out of the water.....and I'll buy it.
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V4B :)
 
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bassballs27 said:
Maybe not in my basement, but elsewhere I might.

1000W isn't a lot of power by today's standards. It's a 1000W of class D too.
There are guys that have 4000W in a subwoofer driving down the street.

I enjoy the perception of loud. I use a QSC PLX 3002 in my living room as a practice amp and that's 900W at 4 ohms into my Bergantino HD410. I had two of these at one point. And believe me just because that's 900W stereo....that's not 1800W of power. It only gave me about 3dB of gain. That's it.

I'm always expecting to be disappointed with most amps but have hope that I'll be proven wrong.

Find me a 100W bass amp that will blow that bose setup out of the water.....and I'll buy it.
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OK. I sort of keyed in on the primarily for basement thing.

Kind of Wonderin' why you keep referencing class D power as if it needs to be qualified?
Power is power regardless of the amp design.
As long as you refer to the same way to measure power between amps as in peak or RMS or whatever, and you measure that power under the same conditions, it's all the same.

Ohm's law, do not lie, no matter how you slice that PIE. P = I x E.

The load will draw X amount of current while the amp will supply X amount of voltage. Multiply the current times the voltage and you get power.
 
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Old Garage-Bander said:
OK. I sort of keyed in on the primarily for basement thing.

Kind of Wonderin' why you keep referencing class D power as if it needs to be qualified?
Power is power regardless of the amp design.
As long as you refer to the same way to measure power between amps as in peak or RMS or whatever, and you measure that power under the same conditions, it's all the same.

Ohm's law, do not lie, no matter how you slice that PIE. P = I x E.

The load will draw X amount of current while the amp will supply X amount of voltage. Multiply the current times the voltage and you get power.
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I'm not disputing ohms law. I'm disputing perceived power. But that's not what this discussion is about.

Please stay on track please.
 

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