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Please school me on strings

Hi all,

I've been switching back and forth on guitar and bass as opportunities come up. I know plenty about guitar strings but bass strings are a mystery to me.

I have a Jazz bass. I've never changed the strings. I don't even know what strings are on it.

I just bought an Ibanez sr1345b 5 string. It's in the mail. I looked up the strings that come on it.

D'Addario® EXL165 + .130 045/.065/.085/.105/.130

It's seems that besides guages, there are lengths to consider. There also seems to be variations in the guages included in sets. Also differences in materials, windings, cores, etc.

Can you give me some ideas as to what is important to know and why someone might chose one type of string over another?

Thanks
 
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Round wound strings tend to sound brighter that flats. Flat wounds tend to be smoother to play. Stainless steel tends to sound brighter than nickel. Hex core tends to be stiffer than round. These are generalities.

A 30" scale bass needs different strings than a 34".

Different strings can make a huge difference in the tone and playability of a bass.
 
Can you give me some ideas as to what is important to know and why someone might chose one type of string over another?

Do what I did when I first started playing bass. Spend some time browsing through all the threads in the "Strings" section here. Read and learn, read some more and learn some more, on and on...

I did that for the first couple of years.
 
The strings the new Ibanez sd1345b supposedly comes with appears to not exist. At least I can't seem to find them anywhere.

D'Addario® EXL165 + .130 045/.065/.085/.105/.130

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Must be an error on the web site. The B string is probably (.135).
 
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The strings the new Ibanez sd1345b supposedly comes with appears to not exist. At least I can't seem to find them anywhere.

D'Addario® EXL165 + .130 045/.065/.085/.105/.130

This is probably a custom set put together by Ibanez for this particular bass. The EXL165-5 as a D'Addario factory set is 45-65-85-105-135. But it's possible Ibanez chose .130 for the B string for this model. That's why it says "EXL165 + .130" (= custom set) instead of "EXL165-5" (= D'A factory set).
 
This is probably a custom set put together by Ibanez for this particular bass. The EXL165-5 as a D'Addario factory set is 45-65-85-105-135. But it's possible Ibanez chose .130 for the B string for this model. That's why it says "EXL165 + .130" (= custom set) instead of "EXL165-5" (= D'A factory set).

Ahhh, I think you are probably right, thanks!
 
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For me the same preferences apply to bass and guitar. Only difference (haha) is that 9s shred my fingers on both hands because I prefer to play without a pick. On a guitar do you like heavier sustain or do you like easier bends?

On guitar I use .10's because I'm kind of heavy handed and I break lighter gauge strings. .10's stay in tune better and my vibrato is also more controlled. I use Blue Steels because they tend to be rust resistant.
 
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Hi all,

I've been switching back and forth on guitar and bass as opportunities come up. I know plenty about guitar strings but bass strings are a mystery to me.

I have a Jazz bass. I've never changed the strings. I don't even know what strings are on it.

I just bought an Ibanez sr1345b 5 string. It's in the mail. I looked up the strings that come on it.

D'Addario® EXL165 + .130 045/.065/.085/.105/.130

It's seems that besides guages, there are lengths to consider. There also seems to be variations in the guages included in sets. Also differences in materials, windings, cores, etc.

Can you give me some ideas as to what is important to know and why someone might chose one type of string over another?

Thanks

They are more expensive than guitar strings, but don’t be afraid to change them they get old and clunky, or if you just don’t like them.

One other thing you could do is to think about what type of music are likely to play, then come back and ask what stings might fit best. That could narrow down the choices down to try and save a fair amount of money.
 
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On guitar I use .10's because I'm kind of heavy handed and I break lighter gauge strings. .10's stay in tune better and my vibrato is also more controlled. I use Blue Steels because they tend to be rust resistant.
Then likewise you might not want extra light bass strings. But it's a guess. There's no wrong answer as it all comes to your preference.
 
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Hi all,

I've been switching back and forth on guitar and bass as opportunities come up. I know plenty about guitar strings but bass strings are a mystery to me.

I have a Jazz bass. I've never changed the strings. I don't even know what strings are on it.

I just bought an Ibanez sr1345b 5 string. It's in the mail. I looked up the strings that come on it.

D'Addario® EXL165 + .130 045/.065/.085/.105/.130

It's seems that besides guages, there are lengths to consider. There also seems to be variations in the guages included in sets. Also differences in materials, windings, cores, etc.

Can you give me some ideas as to what is important to know and why someone might chose one type of string over another?

Thanks
What you want?
rounds or flats.

Then, how stiff do you want them to be?
floppy or tight.

How long you want them to last?
A week, a month, or 15 years?




If you don't know what you want, because you've never ventured out, get a set of medium light nickels rounds. D'addario's are standard on pretty much every bass besides Fenders. Fenders get Fenders in the factory.

I hate D'Addarios. I play elixir nickel rounds. Medium Guage.

GHS Boomers are also great strings. Fenders aren't bad, but they don't last more than 2 weeks.

Elixirs last until you want to change them, or the coating starts coming off.




Some people like stainless strings. They're brighter, and more scooped. I can never get past the odd twang they give the E string. Drives me crazy.


Flatwounds are dull, and stiff. Quirky, and odd. Some people swear by them, others hate them. Me, I like Fender flats. They're the only ones I can keep on for more than a week. I've tried them all. All of them...okay, pretty much all of them. Fender's where it's at for flats. Medium Guage. Although, the light Guage are easier on your hands. To me, they just don't feel right though.
 
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@buldog5151bass has the right of it, but I'll go a little deeper since it's a nearly infinite rabbit hole and you don't want to try to explore the whole space right away. You could change your strings once a week and it'd still take years to explore all the possible options.

This is because there are many dimensions on which strings differ. First is what kind of string (round, flat, etc.) and the second is gauge. I think you should start with those.

Kind is more or less a trade-off between brightness in sound and smoothness in finger feel. At the rough but bright end, you have rounds. Then pressurewounds, then half-rounds, then flats at the less bright but more smooth end. There's also tapewounds, which are also generally toward the flats end of the spectrum.

I'd settle on this first. Some people like the more zingy sound of rounds, some like the more thumpy sound of flats, some are in between. It sometimes depends on the bass, too. I have pressurewounds on my P and my J, rounds on my Rays (stainless steel on the short scale) and my HH Sire, and flats on my fretless J (for now).

Your Ibanez is coming with standard nickel-plated rounds. If you like the sound and feel of those, great—keeps your life simple. Pretty much everyone who makes bass strings makes rounds and they're generally the cheapest. If you think they are too rough-feeling or too bright, then try something else, and beware of how many options there are.

Then there's gauge. Since you play guitar, you probably understand the tradeoffs there: heavier gauge lets you dig in more and gives more sustain, lighter gauge means less effort to fret/bend, etc. 45-105 is the most common set for 4-string basses and if you don't know what's on your jazz bass, it's probably 45-105s.

If you want less tension so fretting and bending are more guitar-like, get lighter strings. If you want to dig in more or your strings feel floppy, get heavier strings. If what's on your basses is working for you, great—again, that's one less thing to worry about.

The other issue with string gauge is whether you care about having the same tension from string to string. Most sets have higher tension on the A and D strings. My take is that this doesn't bother most people. If you are in the "don't care" crowd, once again, great—it simplifies things; just get whatever has the appropriate weight for you on the heaviest string and be done with it.

Side note: I think most people don't care because what seems to be the most common size strings is 45-65-85-105, which is not balanced; there's about 25% more tension on the D than the E. I know it may look balanced, but to maintain balance the difference between gauges needs to increase between each string, not be the same. 45-60-80-105 would actually be more balanced (E is still a little low there); D'Addario makes a "balanced tension" 45-60-80-107 set. I tried this for giggles once and it ruined me because I really liked it, so now I try to find balanced sets. Finding a well-balanced set for a 5-string is not easy. I finally just gave up and got a Stringjoy custom set and I think I'm done looking. End side note.

And you're right, stuff like materials and core shape matter as well. If you want even brighter and even more rough to the touch than regular rounds, get stainless steel rounds. Then there's stuff like pure nickel, cobalt, etc. for even more variation. And core shape, too—hex is stiffer. I wouldn't start messing with this stuff right away, though, focus on kind and gauge first.

TLDR: If you like the standard rounds that come on the Ibanez, great. Stick to rounds of "standard" gauge and keep your life simple. If not, welcome down the rabbit hole.
 
They are more expensive than guitar strings, but don’t be afraid to change them they get old and clunky, or if you just don’t like them.

One other thing you could do is to think about what type of music are likely to play, then come back and ask what stings might fit best. That could narrow down the choices down to try and save a fair amount of money.
To each his own, I don't like being STUNG at all. As for strings, See the first phrase in my reply. I can only suggest listen to all of the above, and try a few until you find one that you like. I currently run roundwound on my Bass, but if I ever, big IF BTW, change them, I might try some flats or coated strings.
 
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The short course, without getting into brands and their various sets:

Generally, there are three kinds of bass strings:

Roundwounds have an external wrap of round wire.

Flatwounds have an external wrap of flat wire.

A third is sort of hybrid of the two, generally called 'ground' wounds. These started off as round wounds then were either mechanically buffed or sanded, or in other processes swaged. The outer round wrap is mechanically smoothed to feel more like a flatwound yet retain some of the round wound tone.

Tonewise, the brightest are roundwounds, a bit tamer are the groundwounds, then the smoothest tone is flatwound.

The number of wraps, the composition of the alloys in the wire used, the type of core, the way they are wound, this is where you split off into the many combinations that the different manufacturers use.

String length/scale length is important for buying the right strings for your bass.

Basses tend to be short scale (30"), medium scale (32"), long scale (34"), and extra long scale (35"), and there are a handful of instruments outside of these numbers, but by far those are the most common. You need to know the scale length of your instrument and buy accordingly. IF you have a bass where the strings pass thru the body and come up through the bridge, often you may need to buy the next size longer for it to be the right length.

Past these basics, you're just going to have to buy some different sets for a while to see what suits you best. Do not be surprised if sets of the same size and type (say, a 45-135 roundwound set for your Ibby five) don't feel and sound different from brand to brand, even though they're seemingly the same roundwound set.

For all of us, we had to try different ones 'till we got the ones we like best. The only 'best' . . . is what's best to you.