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Possibly leaving the band

It is what it is.
No band is perfect.
It was a loose band when you joined and it’s still a loose band.
You will probably never find the perfect blend of casual and serious professionals in a band.
Nobody in the audience cares what the girl singer sings. It only bothers you.
You mentioned the band leader is a local with a following. He has all the power and leverage in this situation. He can always find a new bass player and drummer.

e can find a drummer, bass player and guitar player. He would be losing the strongest part if the band.
 
Well the meeting took place and was well received by the BL. He even brought up up some of the problem before we did.
He referred to three of us as professional musicians and asked if we felt the keyboardist was a musician.
I said all of us are musicians with different skill levels but some of are lacking in preparation and dedication.

We’ll see how it goes.
 
Well, how many people do the guitar, bass and drums draw? You mentioned he had a following, how about you guys, do you guys have a following?
I’m really not trying to be the bad guy but that’s what is most important to the clubs that book the band.
If I were you I would talk to band leader first, but don’t quit.
Start a new band with the drummer and guitar and look around for a good singer. Get the new band going first.
 
All three of us have other gigs if we want them. Several groups have asked each of us to play for them but we wouldn’t be together. We’ve turned them down to stay with this group.
It’s now up to the BL to follow through.
 
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*Nobody in the audience cares what the girl singer sings. It only bothers you...*

Well, sure I would but whilst there are various bands around here you might regard as not so great... I can't imagine a band would survive long at all getting gigs if there was perceived indifference from the stage.

Bookers here take care to pick their bands because there are 10's of others after their gigs..so your roster becomes your top 10 or so.

Venues invest a lot into their music business model..its the difference as to whether people attend outside of regulars and the investment by them has to pay off.

I can't imagine this situation here at all...
Of course, you would have to be there...
 
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This would imply to me they see her angle as more important...and she dismisses your concerns. Maybe they do too.

I wouldn't hold out much hope you'll get the changes you seek.
The BL assured us that he’s on the same page as we are. He’s seen the eye rolling and her indifference, or should I say “ Diva like” attitude. Being 81 he’s not always able to make it through 4 sets and one night he left after set 3.
She had been drinking heavily but he was unaware of it.
When we started the set she was actually stumbling around and knocked her mic stand into the guitar player’s Paul Reed Smith. He addressed the problem and she apologized to each of is individually.
Now it appears we’re headed down that road again. He said he’s going to implement a “no drinking” policy between our start time a finish time. We’ll see how it’s received and if it’s adhered to.
Like I said before, if the changes aren’t implemented and enforced, we’re gone.
Life’s much too short to put up with crap like this.
 
I'm glad you are talking about it with the BL. There is a lot that he can control, and yes, he needs to keep the experience fresh. He's got one thing going for him -- the following and the gigs, so that is good.

The female singer is problematic -- she's been approached and is clearly not interested in taking the band's suggestions, so, I don't see her responding to the BL's request to get with the program. I predict she may have to leave. As a BL I would take all this seriously as it's a big job to reinvent a band after so many people leave. And with so many gigs on the horizon, I wouldn't want the risk.
 
Stumbling around on stage can't be a regular thing.
Not a good look... and an abuse of everyone else's commitment, tbh.

If this was a pattern, they'd have to go..

I'm having a hard time reckoning how
they think this would ok.
 
She had been drinking heavily but he was unaware of it.
When we started the set she was actually stumbling around and knocked her mic stand into the guitar player’s Paul Reed Smith. He addressed the problem and she apologized to each of is individually.
Now it appears we’re headed down that road again. He said he’s going to implement a “no drinking” policy between our start time a finish time. We’ll
People who think they sing/play better when drinking actually do not.
 
Stumbling around on stage can't be a regular thing.
Not a good look... and an abuse of everyone else's commitment, tbh.

If this was a pattern, they'd have to go..

I'm having a hard time reckoning how
they think this would ok.
At some venues, this could be considered part of the show people come to see. 🤔
 
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I'm willing to put up with some behind the scenes BS if the band can behave professionally.

Texting on stage, acting like you don't give a ****, regularly not being able to control either/or behavior or ability to perform due to alcohol (or drugs) - that kind of thing's going to translate badly to the crowd.

Mention it to the BL without making any threats, ask if he feels the same way and if so, what steps he's willing to take. If it were me asking and he wasn't willing to take corrective action, I'd simply resign - no drama, just 30 days notice and best of luck to everyone.
 
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Yep, no band is drama free, but have to say the level of unprofessional behaviour some list on these pages is amazing..in a bad way.

I dont recognise them in any bands I've been involved in for the last 30 yrs.

I don't think this is down to luck.